[TenTec] Centurion

[mcelmer1]

I hear your screeching howls all the way to Eastern Colorado.

If you do not recognize your condescending and insulting verbiage then 
nothing I can say will persuade you.

Mike C
W8TRN
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 11:27
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Centurion


> Mike, explain what you did not like about it.
> The ARB is over-hyped exactly as I described it.
> It solves just 50% of the problem that it is hyped to solve.
> I can explain that if you like?
>
> At least I am offering suggestions.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of mcelmer1
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:14 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Centurion
>
> I think we can do without personal attacks and the wisecracks.Kinda
> paraphased and plagarized from "As Good As It Gets".
>
> Mike Celmer
>
> Mike
> W8TRN
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 03:06
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Centurion
>
>
>> Yes!
>>
>> You are overlooking the fact that the ARB does absolutely nothing except
>> enable keying a device (amp) with a different voltage level than the
>> keying
>> device (transceiver) can handle  AND  the amp and Orion do not have
>> different voltage levels.
>> THERE IS ZERO VALUE IN USING THE ARB!
>>
>> What smoked?  The Centurion or the Orion?
>>
>> The Orion can also key an amplifier using the traditional single keying
>> line
>> method.
>> It has no problem keying the centurion with a single line.
>>
>> Simply connect that line to the PTT/VOX jack on the Centurion as shown in
>> figure 1-3 on page 1.6.
>> This should get it working for SSB.  BTW, the CONROL MODE switch of the
>> Centurion must be set in the PTT/VOX position for this to work.  AND if I
>> recall correctly, you also have to go into the menu in the Orion and tell
>> it
>> to use this mode.  See the manual on this.
>>
>> To work CW, the Centurion manual (paragraph 1-2) describes the procedure
>> for
>> break in, but it involves using the TX enable keying circuit which I 
>> think
>> is burned up.  So that is not going to work.  And the ARB certainly will
>> be
>> of no help here!
>>
>> In fact the ARB is USELESS for newer equipment.
>> You only need it for keying very old amps.
>>
>> Unfortunately Ameritron/MFJ hypes the value of the ARB far beyond 
>> reality.
>> It has no means of addressing keying timing issues, which older devices
>> also
>> have.
>> So in reality, in cases where it is needed, it only handles half of the
>> job.
>>
>> Of course the best solution is to repair what has burned up.
>>
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of mcelmer1
>> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 2:16 AM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Centurion
>>
>> Let me try this again.
>>
>> The my Orion 1, TX EN/TX OUT, both 1 & 2 will not key the Centurion - 
>> some
>> component in that circuit smoked this morning.
>>
>> So, why not use the ARB to key the Centurion? Or am I overlooking another
>> source on the Orion to key the Centurion?
>>
>> Miike
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
>> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 15:32
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Centurion
>>
>>
>>> Why are you wanting to use that?
>>> What transceiver are you using it with?
>>> The Centurion does not need any MFJ stuff to be keyed properly from a
>>> Ten-Tec transceiver.
>>> It's useless baggage!
>>>
>>> The ARB 704 is intended for using a newer transceiver with an old amp
>>> that
>>> has a T/R relay with high voltage.
>>> It is totally useless and excess to your needs if you have a newer amp
>>> and
>>> newer transceiver.
>>>
>>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
>>> mcelmer1
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:24 PM
>>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>>> Subject: [TenTec] Centurion
>>>
>>> I want to interface a ARB 704 with the Centurion but can not figure out
>>> where to connect the ARB.
>>>
>>> Do I use the Key In or Key Out RCA's on the Centurion?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> W8TRN
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