[TenTec] Model 411 amp (aka Centaur)

[km2km at twc.com]

I'm late chiming in.   My problem with the fuses has always been a shorted tube.  You are on the right track.   Test one fuse at a time, or start with one, add another, then the third.  BTW a matched set is better than an unmatched set HOWEVER,  I had three misc tubes gathered over the years and put them in and do pretty well with them.  I did that while waiting for a new matched set.  Now the matched set is on the shelf waiting their turn!!!

The guy at the local electronics store said to me one day when I bought a dozen fuses, "You do know that if you don't fix it then it will still blow fuses!" 

good luck,

Kris


Kris KM2KM 
MERSCHROD
123 Warren Road
Ithaca, NY 14850

---- Joe Papworth via TenTec <tentec at contesting.com> wrote: 

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It has stayed on with the tubes removed for a while.?
I'm examining/ohming the tubes now.


-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Moreschi <n4py3 at earthlink.net>
To: wb5jnc <wb5jnc at centurytel.net>; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Tue, Jan 26, 2016 3:03 pm
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Model 411 amp (aka Centaur)

 
 
 
Don't overlook the possibility on an intermittent short in one of the 811's. 
 
Carl Moreschi N4PY 
58 Hogwood Rd 
Louisburg, NC 27549 
www.n4py.com 
 
On 1/26/2016 2:54 PM, Al Gulseth wrote: 
> Joe, 
> 
> Just an ohms check may not be enough. You may be dealing with an intermittent 
> breakdown under high voltage. A "hi-pot" (high potential) test with an 
> insulation tester etc. would be the only way to know for sure. A winding 
> layer to adjacent layer partial short in the HV side could also account for 
> your symptoms, and might not be obvious because the winding resistance could 
> show right at the low edge of the manufacturer's spec. (I went through that 
> scenario years ago with a HV filter choke in a small AM BC transmitter.) 
> 
> 73 es GL, Al 
> 
> On Tue January 26 2016 11:28:03 am Joe Papworth via TenTec wrote: 
>>     Thanks Andy. Was it the HV secondary that shorted? 
>> 
>> 
>>    I isolated the HV secondary from the HV board and it reads open to the 
>> frame and chassis. (Reads about 45 ohms when connected to the board) 
>> 
>> 
>>    Thanks, Joe, K8MP 
>> 
>> 
>>   -----Original Message----- 
>>   From: P C Andy Anderson<xtraham58 at hotmail.com> 
>>   To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment<tentec at contesting.com> 
>>   Sent: Tue, Jan 26, 2016 11:52 am 
>>   Subject: Re: [TenTec] Model 411 amp (aka Centaur) 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Joe, I had a similar problem with my Centurion AMP.  It eventually failed 
>>   completely. The secondary of the power transformer shorted to the frame. I 
>> had the Xformer rewound at TRS.  BTW this transformer problem is a known. 
>> 
>>   73' Andy, W3LI 
>> 
>>   ________________________________________ 
>> 
>> 
>>   Tuesday noontime, Joe: 
>> 
>>   I have a Centaur..............keep it covered when not in use. 
>> 
>>   My Elmer told me to always keep it covered..................dust is the 
>>   problem. 
>> 
>>   Even when covered, open it up every two-three years and do a internal 
>>   cleaning. 
>> 
>>   N1MHC/alsirois 
>>   ============= 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Gents, 
>> 
>> 
>>   Have any of you gone a few rounds with a Centaur amp? 
>>   I have a one that blows fuses very intermittently. It vaporizes them both, 
>>   simultaneously, so it's apparently a dead-short somewhere. This happens 
>> even in stand-by. (i.e. No key-down) 
>> 
>> 
>>   Before I tear into it, anyone have any ideas of common failures in these 
>>   amps? 
>> 
>> 
>>   Later, Joe, K8MP 
>> 
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