[TenTec] Wrong Product - Eagle

Sun Feb 19 21:12:19 EST 2017

I thought that the IC-7300 receiver was getting decidedly mixed 
reviews.  I'm not keen on a touch-screen implementation. Interestingly, 
the IC-7200 is back in production.  I like the MIL-SPEC look of it, but 
no doubt it's a matter of personal preference.  The Eagle looks nice, 
too and I'm sure that the Eagle or the Argonaut VI would be the best way 
to restart Ten-Tec production. I have not operated any of these rigs, 
but I'm willing to bet that the Eagle has a better receiver than the 
IC-7300.

73,

Bob WB2VUF

On 2/19/2017 4:58 PM, rick at dj0ip.de wrote:
> Indeed it has.
>
> I had the actual figures about 2 months ago (still do, somewhere).
> If I remember correctly, they must be up to 8 to 10 thousand units by now.
>
> Hard to fight the economies of scale when the competitor has that going for
> her.
>
> YOU GUYS have missed the point.
> You are speculating about a future redesigned product, which takes time.
> In order to get there, A&T-T need to be producing product right now.
>
> Mike has invested in all sorts of machinery and once again returned the two
> companies to be in a position of producing their own radios... Made in USA.
> It is not a good idea to let the machines sit idle while they are designing
> a new product.
>
> The OM7 could possibly be resurrected without too much work.
> The O2 would need a lot of re-design.
> The Eagle is ready to go right now.
>
> I go along with Terry for the follow-up product, but at the moment time is
> of the essence.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl
> Moreschi
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 10:19 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Wrong Product - Eagle
>
> In 17 years of selling my software, I have never seen such a strong response
> on a new radio as the Icom 7300.  It must be breaking all kinds of sales
> records.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 58 Hogwood Rd
> Louisburg, NC 27549
> www.n4py.com
>
> On 2/19/2017 4:01 PM, terry foskey via TenTec wrote:
>> Panadapter scope on front, same menu system as Orion/Omni VII.  Outputs
> for TV monitor.   Similar to display on my ICOM 7800.  That would something
> worth owning.
>>
>>         From: terry foskey<n5tf at yahoo.com>
>>    To: Ron Notarius W3WN<wn3vaw at verizon.net>; 'Discussion of Ten-Tec
> Equipment'<tentec at contesting.com>
>>    Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 2:58 PM
>>    Subject: Re: [TenTec] Wrong Product - Eagle
>>
>> You will never sell eagles at the proposed price point.  I was not
> proposing an OMNI VII only the form factor ie user interface of a box
> similar in size or between the Orion and the Omni VII.  What i propose uses
> the Eagle receiver and perhaps transmit sections but in a different package.
>>
>>         From: Ron Notarius W3WN<wn3vaw at verizon.net>
>>    To: 'terry foskey'<n5tf at yahoo.com>; 'Discussion of Ten-Tec
> Equipment'<tentec at contesting.com>
>>    Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 2:48 PM
>>    Subject: RE: [TenTec] Wrong Product - Eagle
>>
>> Terry,
>>
>> I would respectfully disagree with you in part.
>>
>> Considering that the Omni VII is the older of the two designs, it
>> makes sense to bring back the Eagle first.  Less chance of parts
>> suddenly becoming unobtanium, one of the hottest receivers on the
>> market at the time (remember the upgrade to the Orion/Orion II second
>> receiver was the Eagle receiver design, as I recall), and a relatively
> compact design.
>> If were Mike to ask for my input, which he has not, my only quibble
>> would be to make the "bare bones" Eagles all with the antenna tuner.
>> You can achieve a bit of an economy of scale that way, and it would be
>> a good selling point when compared to the imported rigs for less money
> that come an AT installed.
>> Now, with that said...
>>
>> I would agree that, if I were asked, which I have not, that the first
> "new"
>> rig would logically be an updated Omni VII.  Take the Eagle design,
>> bring it up to date with technology from the last few years, possibly
>> add either a second receiver or the capability to add one later (a
>> simple add-in board, perhaps).  Use the larger rig form factor of an
>> Omni VII or an Orion for the purpose of ergonomics (I've used a K3,
>> and I really dislike the small knobs and the relatively crowded front
>> panel... But I don't wan an all menu driven rig, either).
>>
>> Once that's done, if I were asked, which I have not, I'd then suggest
>> updating the Eagle.  So the two primary HF rigs would be the 'updated'
>> Eagle and the 'updated' Omni VII, whatever names/numbers end up being
>> hung on them.
>>
>> Oh, and I would also (if asked) suggest bringing the Rebel&  Patriot
>> back sooner than later, and yes, I know that the old CPU is out of
>> production and this would require a small redesign.  They were selling
>> quite well for a while, and it looked as though they were a big hit
>> with those interested in Open Source and similar 'mod' projects.  Both
>> were essentially single board rigs, as I recall, with a simple case.
>> Should be easy to put back in production (oh, sure) compared to the other
> rigs.
>> ...and if at all possible, I'd hope Mike can have rigs with him at
>> Hamvention (I guess we can't call it Dayton anymore, can we?  Xenia
>> Hamvention just doesn't have the ring to it though).  I think it would
>> be a huge postitive PR step to not just SAY that the gear is back in
>> production, but to SHOW them, and display them ready for sale NOW.  If
>> Mike were to ask my opinion, that is, which he has not.
>>
>> Back to the contest!
>>
>> 73. ron w3wn
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of terry
>> foskey via TenTec
>> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 11:58 AM
>> To: TenTec at contesting.com
>> Cc: terry foskey
>> Subject: [TenTec] Wrong Product - Eagle
>>
>> I personally believe the Eagle is the wrong product to hang a radio
>> restart on.  Piggy back on the OMNI VII and Orion 2. Take a form
>> factor somewhere near the Omni VII box, slap two eagle receivers in
>> it, nice pad adapter screen  with an output for a larger screen, IF
>> Out and you could compete with elecraft and others.  The user
>> interface alone on the Tentec will run circles around the Elecraft.
>> Perhaps Im wrong but I don't believe the Eagle has the demand.
>> N5TFTerry
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