[TenTec] Carrier sliding across bands
xanthi
xanthi at skybest.com
Sat Nov 10 12:29:00 EST 2018
I was given a schedule for these ionosounders way back in the mid-90's.
Using time and frequency on which the sweeping signal was heard in
coordination with the schedule info, one could determine the location of
the sweeping transmitter heard.
I have lost that info. I'm sure it would be too out of date to be of
use now. There are lots of these transmitting sites that transmit in a
precise sequence with no overlap in frequency at the instance. I'm sure
there have been lots of additions and deletions. I don't know if this
info is available on the internet. I have forgotten what the frequency
limits for the sweep are. I seem to recall the bottom was 3 mHz.
The engineer who gave me the information worked for a company that built
two-way HF communications equipment that made use of the sweeping
signals to automatically establish the best point to point
communications path frequency at the time. I expect it was probably
used mainly by the government.
I most commonly hear these signals swish by on 40M these days.
de KY4P
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On 11/9/2018 6:08 PM, Carlos wrote:
> Hi Bob,
> Yes, ionosounders appear as a moving clean carrier, they can sweep the band
> you are working in 3 or 4 seconds.
>
> What you describe looks to me like a harmonic of a switched-mode power
> supply where the fundamental frequency is set by an RC oscillator.
> Sometimes you can see several harmonics spaced by the switching frequency
> (for example, some noise every 60 kHz or so).
>
> 73,
> Carlos VK1EA
>
>
>
> On Saturday, November 10, 2018, Bwana Bob <wb2vuf at verizon.net> wrote:
>> An ionosonde, I think, would be a clean signal. I get switching power
> supplies sweeping across the bands in my neighborhood, but they drift very
> slowly and usually have a rough AC modulation on them. The buzz is often
> found across the band at 20-30 kHz intervals. Noise blankers won't wake
> them out. I hate 'em!
>> 73,
>>
>> Bob WB2VUF
>>
>> On 10/24/2018 12:22 PM, MadScientist wrote:
>>> Ionosonde sounds like the most plausible source. I read the description
> and it looks very much like what I am hearing.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>> On Oct 24, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Mike Bryce <prosolar at sssnet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> that could well be nothing more than a switching power supply (think
> wall wart here) and that’ s the oscillator singing away.
>>>> if you can, run the 7300 on a battery and pull the main breaker in the
> house. If the carrier goes away, start looking
>>>> if it’s still there, as your neighbors about pulling wall warts one at
> a time (good luck with that!)
>>>>
>>>> Mike, WB8VGE
>>>> www.theheathkitshop.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 24, 2018, at 12:07 PM, MadScientist <dukeshifi at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>>>> Well, I entered the SDR world with my new IC-7300! That’s off topic
> but what I have observed with it is very much on topic.
>>>>> Over the past year I have heard, on all rigs, a carrier sweeping
> across the band (all bands). It is fairy strong.
>>>>> The landscape ,on the 7300 is fast enough to observe the nature of
> this. The signal consists of actually three peaks that typically start on
> the low end of a given band and sweep the range of 200 KHz in about 2
> seconds, with the speed being nearly constant, as evidenced by the sloping
> line that the signal makes on the waterfall display.
>>>>> That line is almost perfectly monotonic across the entire scope window.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition, I sometimes see a carrier that makes a back-hand-forth
> movement on the waterfall display.
>>>>> Does anyone have any idea what be the origin of this signal??
>>>>>
>>>>> I know it’s not a radio artifact as I have herd this on a dozen
> different radios. Also, if I disconnect the antenna, this is never heard.
>>>>> Gary
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