[TenTec] Centurian data points.

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My Vectronics DL2500 fan cooled DL seems very stable when tuning up on
160-6m.

	-----------------------------------------From: "CARTER GRABARCZYK" 
To: "ah7i at gatech.edu", "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday February 24 2021 10:30:13AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Centurian data points.

 What kind of dummy load? An off the wall idea, but when the "dummy
load gets very warm", is it still 50 ohms - or is the resistance
changing?
 73,Carter K8VT

 On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 2:00:25 PM EST, Ken Brown  wrote:

 Hi Bob,

 Not sure exactly where your numbers are coming from. Is Pin your
 calculated Plate Power input using Plate Current and Plate Voltage
meter
 readings from the amplifier? How are you measuring fwdWatts? The
built in
 meter in the amplifier? Are you using any kind of RF wattmeter
separate
 from the amplifier, such as a Bird 43 with a 2500H element? You
mentioned
 an RF Voltmeter, have you used that yet. What kind of RF Voltmeter is
it?
 Do you trust it's accuracy and flat frequency response on all of the
HF
 bands? And is it high enough impedance to have negligible effect on
the 50
 Ohm system? If so measuring RF Volts directly at a good 50 Ohm
 non-inductive termination should be a good way to accurately
determine RF
 power.

 Ken N6KB

 On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 7:48 AM Bob D.  wrote:

 > New to me Centurian.
 > I was a bit surprised to find a 15A and a 25A fuse.
 > 20 A x 2 is specified for 230V so I replaced them.
 > Total is the same :-)
 >
 > Here is what I see with a 50 Ohm dummy load and the Centurians
meters.
 > The LED peak reading varied from 1.2 * to 2 * the "wd" meter.
 > Drive varies from 50 W to 100 W with lower on the higher bands.
 > Drive is Eagle via 18" coax and a 6' piece of RG213 to the dummy
load.
 >
 > Band(CW end) m, Ig mA, Ip mA, fwd Watts?, Pin
 > 10 260 390 600 1100
 > 15 260 430 900 1200
 > 20 230 420 1100 1180
 > 40 200 500 1200 1400
 > 80 230 600 1200 1700
 > 160 250 600 900 1700
 > Ep 2.8 kV at 600 mA
 >
 > Things don't add up.
 > 10 m 1100 W in 600 W out is not unreasonable
 > 15 m 1200 in and 900 out seems rather good but not impossible.
 > 20 m 1180 in and 1100 out is nonsense
 > 40 m 1400 in and 1200 out is unbelievable
 > 80 m 1700 in 1200 out is not unreasonable
 > 160 m 1700 in and 900 out is a bit low but how efficient is this
amp on
 > 160?
 >
 > Yes, the dummy load gets very warm.
 > Anodes glow nicely on 10 m so the input power is going somewhere
:-)
 >
 > I suppose I'm going to have to dig out and check calibration on my
RF
 > voltmeter and measure at the dummy load to have a good number for
the
 > output. Will also have to study up on the metering circuitry to see
why the
 > results are so weird.
 >
 > The manual says no more than 800 mA Ip. They must have used a
different
 > transformer to get 800 mA!
 >
 > 73, -Bob ah7i
 >
 >
 > -do not look into LASER with remaining eye!
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