[TenTec] Incomplete V3 update...

Wed Nov 17 04:56:33 EST 2021

Hi Bob

I am not sure from your description where you got your 3.026 file. Did you
unzip it first of all ?

I think I am using 3,033xe but I will check tomorrow.

If it were me, I would do nothing until I had a known working version 3
file. I can direct you to or provide you with one of those.

Then I would see if I could put the rig into the update mode again which I
suspect should be possible. Then I would try to update with the new version
3 file.

I have never had a problem updating or regressing to an earlier V3 version
with any of my four Orion 2's.

I will get back to you tomorrow.

Barry  VK2BJ

On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 07:40, Bob, W3IDT <w3idt at comcast.net> wrote:

> After some searching re my FT8 audio problems with the Orion II, I
> stumbled upon the need to update the software from version 2 to version
> 3. (The radio was bequeathed to me; I am not the original owner.)
>
> 1. I found the exe file inside the 566-setup-3.026exe_(1).zip file.
>
> 2a. Used the USER2 + POWER sequence to place the radio in Flash Update
> Mode, and ran the program: 10810 lines updated.
>
> 2b. At the end, the display had an truncated Ten-Tec logo:
> two vertical black lines, a wider vertical red line, then two more
> vertical black lines.
>
> 3a. Used the VFO-B_LCK + POWER sequence to start the "RAM clear" process.
>
> 3b. Nothing happened after several minutes of holding the VFO-B-LCK
> button: No "Battery Failure" message, as per the instructions.
>
> Radio now powers up with the truncated ten-tec logo as in (2b).
> And is, of course, dead.
>
> NOW WHAT??
> Was I impatient with the RAM Clear?
> Hold VFO-B-LCK longer?
> What else?
>
>
>
>
> .......
> . Robert F. Teitel, W3IDT
> .
> . w3idt at comcast.net
> . w3idt at arrl.net
> ........
>
> On 11/14/2021 8:26 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> > I would double check the connections between the computer audio output
> and the DIN connector on the back of the Orion.    Maybe  for a wiring
> error?
> >
> > Are you using any audio interface? Signalink or such?
> >
> > 73
> > Bob, K4TAX
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Nov 14, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Bob, W3IDT <w3idt at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Bob,
> >>
> >> TNX for the reply (and your replies to many questions on this list)!
> >>
> >> But...
> >>>> Run WSJT-X as a stand-a-lone application
> >>
> >> Should have added that I'm running them stand-alone
> >> (either JTDX or WSJT - they behave the same).
> >>
> >>>> set the levels set correctly.
> >> I think I have everything set for maximum.
> >>
> >>>> The fact you can get it working using the SP function says the audio
> is low getting to the radio.
> >> Right.
> >>
> >>>> Or the radio AUX gain is set too low.
> >> As noted, AUX gain set to 100 (max)
> >>
> >> The issue maybe the MicroHam/MicroKeyer.
> >> That's why it was in the subject line.
> >> (it's an older model,
> >> but does fine for rig control and RTTY and CW).
> >> Haven't tried SSB DVK through it for years.
> >>
> >> W3DQ asked you about the Orion and FT8 some time ago.
> >> That's why I included your exchange with him.
> >>
> >> Obviously, I'm somewhat ahead of where W3DQ was,
> >> actually getting some output (and working people).
> >> Oh, Eric, w3dq, is a local, good friend.
> >> Now uses a K3 for most operating.
> >>
> >> I have an FTdx5000, but it lives at the W3LPL super-station
> >> for the major contest season. I'm part of the multi-team.
> >> And I do SS/SSB from there.
> >>
> >> I had a round with Joe Subich, W4TV, about the
> >> Microham/MicroKeyer some time ago.
> >> Maybe I'll bug him again.
> >>
> >> Any additional thoughts would be appreciated.
> >>
> >> Bob, w3idt
> >>
> >> .......
> >> . Robert F. Teitel, W3IDT
> >> .
> >> . w3idt at comcast.net
> >> . w3idt at arrl.net
> >> ........
> >>
> >>> On 11/13/2021 5:01 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> >>> Run WSJT-X as a stand-a-lone application and get the levels set
> correctly.   The fact you can get it working using the SP function says the
> audio is low getting to the radio.  Or the radio AUX gain is set too low.
> >>> Bob, K4TAX
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>> On Nov 13, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Bob, W3IDT <w3idt at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> 
> >>>> Does any have this combination?
> >>>> Or remember anything about this combination?
> >>>>
> >>>> Trying to use JTDX/WSJT-X.
> >>>> Simple problem is that I can only get about 20 watts out of the Orion
> II using the TUNE function in JTDX/WSJT with, I think, all controls set for
> "maximum smoke" :
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. PC LineOut/Speakers to MH/MK SoundOut.
> >>>> (that is correct, though it appears to be reversed.)
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. PC [Sound][Speakers] maximum volume both Left and Right.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3. JTDX/WSJT [Settings][Audio] Output = Speakers;
> >>>> Left, Mono, Both -> 20w Power; Right -> no power.
> >>>>
> >>>> 4. JTDX/WSJT power slider at Maximum.
> >>>>
> >>>> 5. MH/MK set to special Orion II VOICE = CBA specification
> >>>> (to feed PC audio out to Orion II AUX audio in).
> >>>>
> >>>> 6. MH/MK internal pot tried at MIN and MAX;
> >>>> power varies, MAX is best.
> >>>>
> >>>> 7. MH/MK external pot at MAX.
> >>>> Power varies, MAX is best.
> >>>>
> >>>> 8. Orion II SP= Off and TX EQ = 0dB
> >>>>
> >>>> 9. Orion II [Menu][SSB] Audio Source
> >>>> = AUX or BOTH -> 20w power
> >>>> = MIC -> no power
> >>>>
> >>>> 10. Orion II [Menu][SSB] AUX input gain
> >>>> power varies, 100 -> 20 Watts.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rig / CAT control, RTTY (FSK), and CW work fine, 100W out.
> >>>> I can actually work FT8 stations with the 20w,
> >>>> including 9J2BS (Zambia) just today.
> >>>> But still . . .
> >>>>
> >>>> UPDATE: If I turn the SP up to about 6,
> >>>> I get full power out.
> >>>> But... SP is a no-no for FT8.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any thoughts?
> >>>>
> >>>> Bob, w3idt
> >>>> Oh, and I've studied this old email to W3DQ who had similar problems.
> >>>> Can't see anything I'm doing wrong.
> >>>>
> >>>> .......
> >>>> . Robert F. Teitel, W3IDT
> >>>> .
> >>>> . w3idt at comcast.net
> >>>> . w3idt at arrl.net
> >>>> ........
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 11/10/2021 11:28 AM, Eric Rosenberg wrote:
> >>>>> Haven't gone through my notes, but ran across this.
> >>>>> Hope it helps a bit!
> >>>>> ------ Forwarded Message ------
> >>>>> From: "Bob McGraw" <rmcgraw at blomand.net <mailto:rmcgraw at blomand.net
> >>
> >>>>> To: "Eric Rosenberg" <ericrosenberg.dc at gmail.com <mailto:
> ericrosenberg.dc at gmail.com>>
> >>>>> Sent: 2/10/2021 1:05:27 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] FT8/FST4 with an Orion 565
> >>>>> Eric:
> >>>>> In general you will need an audio interface such as the Tentec 712
> {if you can find one}, or a Signalink USB.  There are other brands.  If you
> order a new Signalink USB, do get the matching cable for the Tentec ACC
> port.   This handles the audio to and from the computer along with a PTT
> command.
> >>>>> As to CAT interface, you will need either a RS-232 to USB converter
> cable using the FTDI chip or {highly unlikely} your computer has a RS-232
> port.  This communicates control of the radio.
> >>>>> Select the Aux TX input to LINE INPUT.  Adjust the Line Gain to
> about 35.  Set the PWR to 100 watts and USB mode.  Adjust the Line Gain
> and/or the Signalink TX level, and /or the computer software {SPKR] level
> to about 35% or as needed to get about 50 to 75 watts in transmit mode.
> Also, be sure you set any Speech Processing to OFF or to zero and any TX EQ
> to flat.  This is a MUST.
> >>>>> The CAT command can initiate PTT or you can use the Signalink to
> initiate a PTT command.  Don't use both.    Also, do not set TX audio
> source to BOTH.   Use only Line input.
> >>>>> 73
> >>>>> Bob, K4TAX
> >>>>>> On 2/9/2021 9:50 PM, Eric Rosenberg wrote:
> >>>>>> Is there a recommended setup for my Orion and WSJT-X's FT8 and FST4?
> >>>>>> Thanks & 73,
> >>>>>> Eric W3DQ
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