>From my last OZ8RO QTH I had a W1BB inverted L up in a tall tree, with 12 elevated radials. I noticed very little if any difference. After working VK0IR and lost interst in any possible losses ! hi 73 " RAG " Ragnar Otterstad LA5HE JW5HE OZ8RO located in Telemark - Home of skiing. Take a look at : www.visitTelemark.no for more details.