Topband: QSLing

[Thomas Hoeppe]

Hello Joe,

this is another possibility, of course.
You have to find alternatives, when you don't want to be regarded as "bad 
manager"...or you loose money!

73s de Tom, DJ5RE (not a manager...)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists at subich.com>
To: "'Thomas Hoeppe'" <thomas.hoeppe at asamnet.de>; <topband at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: QSLing


>
>> I know a German manager, who is collecting the letters with
>> unsufficient postage (2 dollars mostly), prepares the letters
>> and takes them to a trip to the Czech Republik. It takes a bit
>> more time, but the everyone gets his card...even without postage
>> covered! A perfect service, I would say...
>
> Perhaps it makes sense to prepare all of the W/VE/XE cards,
> bundle them and ship them to someone in the US who can put
> US postage ($0.44 US, $0.75 VE, $0.79 XE) and mail them.
>
> It might take a little longer to accumulate enough to justify
> the cost of a small package but it would avoid paying Bundespost
> or other postal service their obscene rates.
>
> 73,
>
>   ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: topband-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:topband-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Hoeppe
>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:02 AM
>> To: topband at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: Topband: QSLing
>>
>>
>> Unbelievable, but true: In Germany we need 1,70 Euros for a
>> oversea letter.
>> So if you add 3 dollars to a QSL request to Germany, the 30
>> cents left will
>> just cover the costs for the QSL, not more! There is no
>> "donation" left!
>> Nobody gets rich, hi.
>> I know a German manager, who is collecting the letters with
>> unsufficient
>> postage (2 dollars mostly), prepares the letters and takes
>> them to a trip to
>> the Czech Republik. It takes a bit more time, but the
>> everyone gets his
>> card...even without postage covered! A perfect service, I would say...
>>
>> So I am happy about every manager, who just wants the costs
>> covered! Otherwise I ask myself why there are so much
>> managers without using
>> buro-systems! When I made my license I learned: "A manager is
>> a HAM in a
>> land with QSL service, making the QSL traffic for somebody in
>> a land without
>> QSL service."
>> That seems not be true nowadays...in too much cases you don't
>> have the
>> decision if you send direct or via buro!
>>
>> 73s from Bavaria!
>>
>> Tom, DJ5RE/DL0AO
>> www.hoeppe.name
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "F8BPN" <f8bpn at wanadoo.fr>
>> To: "TopBand-list" <Topband at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 11:51 AM
>> Subject: Topband: QSLing
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi all
>> >
>> >>>at 3 bucks hes not getting rich on our dollars
>> >>>with cards and return postage. In many Eu countries its
>> over 2 bucks
>> >>>for return postage.
>> >
>> > Sure not! 1 $ = 0.6756 Euro (Today change)
>> > It coast in France 0.85 Euro to send a 20g letter every
>> where outside
>> > the European union countries, means 1.258 $ If you add the QSL
>> > printing with 2 $ you just cover the coast. With 1$ you don't even
>> > cover the coast for European union as the postage is
>> > 0.70 Euro.
>> > I know in others EU countries the postage is even more
>> expensive than in
>> > France.
>> >
>> >> I'm with K8FC -- I won't pay ANYONE for a QSL, and I won't
>> QSL direct
>> >> with green stamps, no matter how badly I want the card. If
>> a station
>> >> won't use either the Bureau or LOTW, I won't bother trying to work
>> >> him. I'm retired, and I want to spend my limited free cash
>> on things
>> >> that matter, like a better antenna, the research that I
>> continue to
>> >> publish, Lester Young records, or a six pack of decent beer.
>> >
>> > I am not my self QSLing direct very often, I use the REF Buro, it
>> > works
>> > very
>> > well and doesn't coast me any extra money. Just need to be
>> member of the
>> > national society, just as it is in the Netherland and in many EU
>> > countries.
>> > But, I do sometimes, when I work a new one on Top Band for
>> exemple, or an
>> > all time new one, as it won't happen too many time every
>> year, I can do
>> > it,
>> > and I am pleased to get
>> > my card in hand quick. Because I am also pleased to get a
>> real card for
>> > some
>> > contacts. Thanks again Merv KH7C for your QSL received this
>> week for our
>> > 160
>> > m QSO.
>> > I do also for some rare DX expeditions either on the online
>> request, or by
>> > post to participate to the coast of the expedition, sending
>> a bit more
>> > than
>> > the necessary for the return postage.
>> >
>> > I agree that this QSL business can be very expensive at
>> last, but as
>> > long
>> > as
>> > there is the possibility to choose his way to confirm a
>> contact by the QSL
>> > buro or/and LOTW, I don't find anything wrong by the QSLing
>> direct, that's
>> > your choice.
>> > When you send a QSL request direct, you must make sure that
>> there is
>> > enough
>> > for the return postage, or pay the price requested.
>> > Just turn upset on these expeditions or guys who are "QSL
>> only direct"
>> > THIS
>> > is not fair, and THIS is some kind of business which is NOT
>> acceptable!
>> > My point of vue is that this should not be accepted, and
>> these expeditions
>> > not valid not DXCC or any kind of others awards.
>> >
>> >
>> > See you on the band!
>> >
>> > 73/88 de F8BPN, Mau, Also FO8RZ (Direct, buro or LOTW),
>> F6KLO, TM5MEM
>> > and TM2E (2002)  (Direct or Buro) manager f8bpn at wanadoo.fr
>> > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/ph-martin/f8bpn
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > 160 meters is a serious band, it should be treated with respect. -
>> > TF4M
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> 160 meters is a serious band, it should be treated with
>> respect. - TF4M
>
> _______________________________________________
> 160 meters is a serious band, it should be treated with respect. - TF4M