Topband: Inverted L Dimensions

[mrtman777]

I made one big assumption, and I didn't realize it until now, reading "if the 
bend is roughly half-way".  I personally have a 60 ft antenna support, and if I 
increase my length to 5/16, or 3/8 wl, I end up with alot more horizontal wire 
than vertical, whereas at 1/4 wl they are about equal.  I considered all these 
things before putting mine up, but I didn't think of a different vertical 
length.  The argument I made for a 1/4 wl inverted L was assuming a 60 foot 
support.  


Guy,

Would you model an inverted L with a 60 foot vertical length, various horizontal 
length (totaling 1/4 to 3/8 wl), and include 30 deg. elev as well as 15 deg, and 
with a 15 ohm ground?

73,
Trey KJ4FDV

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No flames at all.

If you look at the table in my prior post on this thread, you will see that the 
range between 5/16 and 3/8 is a very good one, DX or local, if the bend is 
roughly half-way.  


A 3/8 wave equal up, equal out L can be tuned with a bifilar 2:1 transformer 
with a series capacitor to get a pretty decent match to 50 ohms.  A friend has a 
57 up, 57 out version for 80 meters tuned that way that is a real killer 
antenna.  At my place, if I COULD do 110 up and 110 out for 160 I would.  The 
losses that can be attributed to ground loss diminish with the 100 ohms R feed, 
and make the whole system a little more forgiving of issues in the 
ground/radials/counterpoise area.  


73, Guy


On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Edward Swynar <gswynar at durham.net> wrote:

 
On 23rd September, Trey wrote:
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>"...By increasing the length of the inverted L to 5/16 wl, you move the
>
>current maxima up the antenna. If you kept lengthening the antenna, you
>would eventually get the current maxima to the junction of the vertical and
>horizontal parts. In this case the horizontal part would have as much
>current and radiate as much as the vertical part. So by lengthening the
>antenna over 1/4 wl, you decrease the percentage of
>the total antenna current that is flowing in the vertical portion from the
>1/4 wl case. This isn't what we want..."
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>Hi Trey et al,
>
>Most interesting to me personally, because my system here uses three
>inverted "L" elements, each 3/8-wave long & tuned at the respective bases by
>large air variable capacitors...
>
>I like that latter feature because it greatly facilitates the resonating of
>each "L": you simply adjust the cap, check the SWR in the shack relative to
>the design frequency, then repeat as necessary(!)---no pruning, trimming, or
>lengthening of wires required...
>
>On the other hand, I would like to maximize the low-angle take-off radiation
>of each "L", in order to facilitate the working of DX.
>
>So allow me to run this by the group for comments & criiques, i.e., what if
>I was to shorten each "L" from the existing 3/8-wave length, to something
>approaching, say, "...one-quater-wave-plus-ten-feet"...? And what if I left
>the tuning capacitor at the base of each "L"...?
>
>I believe that by doing so I'd accomplish two things:
>
>(1) The current node of each "L" would be more concentrated in the vertical
>portion of the wire away from the horizontal, thus aiding & abetting the
>pursuit of DX, and,
>
>(2) I could still benefit from resonating each "L" with base-mounted
>variable capacitors (albeit with much SMALLER "C").
>
>Let the flaming & the sniping begin...! Hi Hi
>
>~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
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