Topband: Ground mounted 1/2 wave

[Bob Eldridge]

>I think this thread has gone to the limit, because the argument is 
>between
emotional conviction laced with constant personal insults and science.

  Too bad the thread was marred by the insults and implications. 
There was lots to be learned even from the digressions, once one had 
figured out who meant what by "ground mounted" versus "in the vicinity 
of ground", "height of antenna" versus "elevation  of antenna site" 
etc.
  I must say most of the amateurs I know have no idea of the effect of 
a change of 0.1 dB (or 1 dB for that matter) and tend to think and 
report in terms of full S-points.
Bob VE7BS