Topband: Vertical dipoles in the real world

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

 > If this is not a fools folley I will put together what I find
 > suprising and put it on my web site for everyone to access but I dont
 > to take the time to document it if its a waste of time.

There are significant differences between "verticals on the beach" and
verticals (including vertical dipoles) over real ground.  Google for
"pseudo Brewster Angle" and see the differences between the essentially
perfect ground provided by salt (sea) water foregrounds and the even
"excellent" dirt.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 9/20/2012 5:55 PM, wa3mej at comcast.net wrote:
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> I noticed that some of the DXpeditions are using vertical diipoles
> next to the sea on at least some of the higher bands ( I am guessing
> 20 and up).  I stuffed the data into EZNEC 5.0 and came up with some
> suprising results, hope I did it correctly I am not an antenna guru .
> Now as Tom has just indicated modeling is great but its only modeling
> it doesnt really tell what happens in the real world/ground
> conditions etc.
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> Does anyone have any real world experience with these dipoles?  Do
> they work in non beach environments such as near the mountians?
> Comments welcome... and I am willing to take the comments off list if
> it suits you.
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> If this is not a fools folley I will put together what I find
> suprising and put it on my web site for everyone to access but I dont
> to take the time to document it if its a waste of time.
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> Jim
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