Topband: Response to W8JI's comments about using a K2AV foldedcounterpoise at VK6VZ

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I would add however (having experience here) that an incremental improvement to a poor antenna can show significant results when you have a low baseline. 

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On Sep 24, 2012, at 11:33, "Tom W8JI" <w8ji at w8ji.com> wrote:

>> FWIW, I have not heard or seen K2AV making unreasonable "claims" of performance.
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> Neither have I, nor have I ever inferred he did.
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> My point, which was addressed to Steve, was pretty basic stuff. I don't understand how it gets changed so much.
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> My point was, when we change **everything** in a system, including where the main vertical element is located in a very cluttered environment, and especially when we have a station that historically has reported over many years having a problem getting any vertical to work as well as a horizontal antenna, it is a very large leap to single out a ground system change as making a few days of operating performance feel good.
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> There isn't any reason to extrapolate things so simple and basic into something no one said.
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> I think it is appropriate and necessary to mention the following general facts:
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> 1.) When multiple things are changed in a randomly cluttered environment, it is impossible to single out a single factor
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> 2.) When a system or location has a history of being sensitive to antenna styles, it is probably not the most reliable performance evaluation site
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> 3.) A few days or weeks of contacts don't mean much on any band, let alone 160. We all probably know this  :-)
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> No one should be offended by anyone's efforts to keep technical discussions grounded in reality, and it certainly should not be changed to something that was never said or implied.
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> 73 Tom 
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