Topband: DXCC Desk?

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Mon Nov 18 22:30:44 EST 2013


You are missing out on all the fun !!!!

On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 15:41:47 -0800 (PST) Bob Kupps <n6bk at yahoo.com>
writes:
> Yeah DXCC stopped being interesting for me back when the the UN HQ 
> building in NYC was declared to be a "country"; maybe it isn't even 
> on the list anymore I haven't checked for decades...
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 4:02 AM, Herb Schoenbohm 
> <herbs at vitelcom.net> wrote:
>  
> Gents... Amateur radio is supposed to be devoid of politics as much 
> as 
> possible. but the more you dig the worse it gets.  I once attended 
> an 
> IARU Region II meeting in Jamaica and was amazed by all the wheeling 
> and 
> dealing going on with DXCC accreditation at the core. That was 
> nearly 50 
> years ago and it seems not much has changed.  I had even heard that 
> the 
> ops at 706T where banned from working any 4X4's but the sharp ops 
> with a 
> wink and a nod just logged VX4*** rather than mentioning anything on 
> the 
> air. Would the ARRL "DXCC Desk" discredit a single 4X4 in need of 
> this 
> one?  I sort of doubt it. At times there are bona fide reasons to 
> make 
> exception.  Also the creation of private DX preserves by the ARRL 
> for 
> certain Radio Societies is legend. In fact KP5 (Desecheo) should 
> never 
> have been granted DXCC status when Mona Island which permits 
> visitors 
> was refused.  Additionally Water Island, which KP2A fought for for 
> years, was clearly not part of the USVI and until recently 
> administered 
> solely by the U.S. Department of interior.  But so the story goes 
> that 
> hams in Puerto Rico had decided to join the IARU as a distinct and 
> unique entity apart from the U.S. and the creation of a private DXCC 
> 
> location was the price the ARRL paid to halt those plans.  The DXCC 
> 
> rules have been anything but consistant and have been bent and 
> twisted 
> like a heavily gerrymander congressional district to purposely 
> include 
> or exclude  voters of certain just to satisfy some.
> 
> 
> Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/18/2013 3:47 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> >
> > Len,
> >
> >> Why, you might ask after all this suffering, is that this nation
> >> still is not recognazid as a separate entity to this very small
> >> world  of the global assembly that Ham radio really is?
> >
> > Ask the Serbs and Russians why they blocked Kosovar membership in 
> the
> > UN and prevented ITU from assigning a callsign block, dialing 
> prefix
> > and internet TLD?  If the Serbs and Russians recognize the 
> Palestine
> > they could certainly allow Kosovo similar international 
> privileges.
> >
> > Kosovo is recognized by the US as an "independent state" (see:
> > http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm) and like the EU the US
> > maintains diplomatic relations with Kosovo.  Unfortunately, the
> > DXCC Rules (see: 
> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/DXCC/DXCC%20Rules.pdf)
> > do not include the US DOS "Independent States in the World" 
> listing as
> > a qualifying option for a "Political (Rule 1) Entity".
> >
> > 73,
> >
> >    ... Joe, W4TV
> >
> >
> 
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