Topband: 2 wire Beverage question

[Carl]

I want to install another 2 wire BOG and experiment with different lengths 
and at the same time use up some extra lengths of MIL telephone wire.

When wiring the sections in series do I have to maintain phase or isnt it 
relevant? IOW, does the wire leaving one side of the feedline end 
transformer have to be connected to the same end at the reflection 
transformer?

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlie Cunningham" <charlie-cunningham at nc.rr.com>
To: "'Bill Stewart'" <cwopr at embarqmail.com>; "'topband'" 
<topband at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: 160m Inverted L High SWR


> Hi, Bill
>
> In your first post, you indicated that min VSWR was 2.9:1 at 1833 KHz, 
> indicating that the system was resonant exactly where  you wanted I to be.
>
> Could I respectfully suggest that at 1.8 MHz, even with a really long 
> coaxial feed-line, the excess loss with a 2.9:1 VSWR over a "flat"  (!:1 
> VSWR) line is really not much at all? The fact that your transceiver is 
> throttling back due to the 2.9:1 VSWR could be easily dealt with by using 
> a tuner between the transceiver  and the feed-line, rather than doing all 
> that work at the antenna.  Not much of a problem at all if you are only 
> running a couple hundred watts. A lot less work and frustration! And the 
> excess loss would be relatively insignificant at 160m.
>
> 73,
> Charlie, K4OTV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bill 
> Stewart
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:48 PM
> To: topband
> Subject: Re: Topband: 160m Inverted L High SWR
>
>
> To all who responded...many thanks.
> I am now in the process of reading over all the suggestions, which were 
> plentiful.
>
> So far I have tried folding back (shortening) the C-P wires by 2 ft....no 
> change, but I'm gonna make a more drastic change and see what that does. I 
> changed the coax run also, with no change. SWR still just shy of 3:1. I 
> will move on to some of the other suggestions.
>
> Question 1: there was mention of tuning the C-P wires. Does that mean to 
> trim them to the desired operating freq (swr min)...leaving the vert as 
> is?
> Would the method be to apply rf between one wire (all others unhooked) and 
> the vert and adj the C-P wire for the desired freq.
>
> Question 2: there was also mention of using a choke at the feed point.
> Recommendations were 30T of 9913 on 8" dia & 30T of RG8 on 6" dia.
> I'm using RG8X so I guess abt the same T/dia would work..doesn't seem too 
> critical.
>
> I can only extend the horiz. section abt ten more feet before the end gets 
> into the support tree so will probably have to leave it around 130' long.
> I will only be running a max of 200w so no hi-pwr coax or other HV devices 
> should be needed.
>
> Again, thanks for all the helpful comments...now out to the back 
> yard..again.
> 73 de Bill K4JYS
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