Topband: Still in search of resonance

[HAROLD SMITH JR]

Sorry Carl, I hit the send button before responding..Now.

I believe that first #14 wire is a bit small.
I do not believe that you will find a 50ohmZ and X=0 point. 

I have 80ft of Rohn 45G with a Telrex 20M546 at 80ft, 3el on 15 at 90 and 3el on 10 at 100ft. I shunt feed the tower for 160 
with a tap at 35ft using 1/2" EMT Conduit. At the end of the shunt rod I have a 500pf Vacuum Variable to the tower base and a 500pf Vacuum 
in series from the shunt rod to the Coax. I can and did tune the Vacuum Caps to VSWR 1:1 at 1830kHz. 
I did this in 1991 and it gets out very well. It hears good but my noise is over S9 with it. DXCC on 160 is 192 cmfd.

73 de Price W0RI near St. Louis


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Some of you may have followed my efforts in trying to shunt feed my 90' Tri-Ex Skyneedle with 20 meter yagi at 93'.  I'm still unable to find any sort of resonance point on the tower.  To refresh everyone's memory here are the specifics:

90' Skyneedle that is 12" round at the base and 4" round at the top

13' of mast out the top

5 element Telrex 20M monobander mounted at the 93' level.  No other antennas on the tower

1 ½" copper pipe as a radial ring that surrounds the concrete base that measures 4' x 8' rectangle.  Three  8' ground rods are connected to the radial ring via 1" copper strap that is .125 thick.

Currently I have 27 14AWG insulated wire radials.  Most of the radials are 20' to 50' long with three at 90 to 120' long and four of them connected to my 40M vertical array which have 100 count radials 50' to 100' each.

The tower is grounded to each ground rod via 1" copper strap .125" thick and, as mentioned above, the ground rods are connected to the radial ring with the same strap with copper clad stainless screws.

When I bolted the gamma arm to the tower at the 90' height I dropped a single 14AWG wire to the ground where my FLUKE meter read ZERO ohms between the radial ring and the end of the gamma wire with no fluctuations so I'm confident that I have good continuity throughout the tower.

Here are the readings that I saw on the MFJ analyzer with the gamma arm mounted at the (4) points on the tower that are available...

With the gamma arm mounted at 90' and 36" spacing I saw 425 ohms at the end of the drop wire on the MFJ

With the gamma arm mounted at 67' and 36" spacing I saw 380 ohms at the end of the drop wire on the MFJ

With the gamma arm mounted at 46' and 36" spacing I saw 240 ohms at the end of the drop wire on the MFJ

With the gamma arm mounted at 28' and 36" spacing I saw 120 ohms at the end of the drop wire on the MFJ

At all of these points I was able to knock down the R with my honkin' 1050pf cap to some resonance sort of resonance at 1.825 MHz but, as most everyone has indicated, I should be able to find a 50 ohm tap somewhere on the tower.  I can't find it.

When I had the gamma arm mounted at the 90' level. I was able to put my baby variable 160pf inline to bring the 425 ohm impedance down to about 60 ohms and the antenna heard very well; especially on the 1700 KHz broadcast band, with a 2.4:1 Vswr.  Similar results could be seen at the other levels too as long as I brought the R down with a variable cap.  Yesterday, with the gamma arm at the 46' level (and 240 ohms on the MFJ) I was able to put the big variable inline to bring the reading to 24 ohms with a TRUE X=0.  With a 22 ohm to 50 ohm UNUN, I saw 1.3:1 Vswr on the output of the UNUN.  I worked a W2 in NJ and a W4 in Florida with just the 1000D.  BUT...again...I'm bringing the R down with the capacitor...not finding 50 ohms anywhere on the tower.

Is my radial field so poor that I'm seeing these goofy readings?

Is the single 14AWG too thin causing goofy readings?

I'm back to scratching my head.

Comments from the list?



Carl AG6X

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