Topband: W/K/VE callers in the Arrl Dx Contests

[w7dra at juno.com]

i have never called or been called by a W in an ARRL DX contest,but i have sure been tempted back in the days before the RBN/is ANYONE hearing me? mike w7dra  

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "k1zm at aol.com" <k1zm at aol.com>
To: topband at contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: W/K/VE callers in the Arrl Dx Contests
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 08:24:54 -0500 (EST)

Hi Guys


I have been reading this thread and I too get hundreds of W callers in ARRL DX - both modes.


It does cover weak signal callers on 160m especially - and I have in the end determined not to ignore them.


I handle it this way:


1) ON CW - I just work the station but send 599 only - no power - so they get the idea that they did something wrong eg:,  that ours was not a valid contest qso (if that is what they were looking for).  If they were just looking for a straight qso they still get one and a qsl if they send me one direct.


2) ON SSB - well this is even worse - I get W callers way down in even the CANADIAN sub-bands if you can believe that!


Here, since it is phone, I say" ur 5x9 but you want to work DX - I am in CANADA".  For those who call me outside the W/K sub-bands, I advise them also that they are outside their allotted FCC band.


To give you an idea of how often this happens - when Scott W4PA operated from here during an ARRL CW DX Test a few years ago, he kept a tally sheet  - and in the end it was something over 200 W/K callers.


Is it a distraction - YES to be sure - but as I age, I realize that there was a time when I too was a beginning contest operator.


In my first SS in 1959 - I sent the LONG exchange (of those days) totally out of order the whole weekend - later realizing my mistake - but those on the other end just said "ROGER" and accepted the qso gladly.


This activity is not likely to just "disappear" despite what we say about it here on this reflector - so it is best just to get them out of the way as fast as you can and keep going.


Stewing over it is not really going to gain us much - is it?  And, I get more of this stuff than you would ever want to know!


FWIW


73 JEFF.VY2ZM










---- Original Message ----
From: Doug Renwick <ve5ra at sasktel.net>
To: 'topband' <topband at contesting.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 18, 2014 12:42 am
Subject: Re: Topband: Contest in progress - few signals


I am not picking on any one operator.  But guys think about it.  If you all
start/continue working 0 point NA stations ... do you not think that it
encourages these stations to continue this behaviour?  It's becoming
everybody work everybody all the time.  If you are happy working these
stations ... that's your personal choice ... fine ... that's not my personal
choice.  Enough said by me.
Doug

"Think of all the ways you can hurt yourself laughing."



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