Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

[Cecil]

Have been for the last 7 years...no issues at all.  The tower products are just an adaptation of products used in the power distribution business for years.  I work for an electric utility, one of the largest in the US.  I've seen both products and see no difference in their design.  The preformed line products grips are used to guy transmission towers on a routine basis.  We also use them to support fiber optic cables on distribution and transmission structures.

I chose the PLP grips for my 65' tower...they were a good bit cheaper.  

I also used screw down anchors for my guy points...the ones used in the electrical distribution business.  Bigger plates, galvanized instead of painted and heavier duty....for less money.


But it is a personal choice....

Cecil
K5DL

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> On Sep 4, 2014, at 3:13 PM, donovanf at starpower.net wrote:
> 
> Hi Carl, 
> 
> Preformed Line Products says: ""Guy-Grip Dead-ends are intended for 
> use on single wood poles associated with distribution construction." 
> 
> If you examine the Rohn tower hardware catalog, they list only Big Grips, 
> never a mention of using wood pole Guy Grips on any of their towers 
> 
> For a few dollars more you can use the BG-2144 Big Grip product 
> recommended by the manufacturer for use on towers. 
> 
> Use Guy Grips for wood poles at your own risk... 
> 
> 73 
> Frank 
> W3LPL 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com> 
> To: donovanf at starpower.net, "Bill Wichers" <billw at waveform.net> 
> Cc: topband at contesting.com 
> Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:14:00 PM 
> Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff 
> 
> Not according to the folks that invented them Frank. The Big Grip is a Guy 
> Grip for serious towers. 
> 
> http://www.preformed.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_phocadownload%26view%3Dcategory%26download%3D44:plp-commcatsec20-2012%26id%3D15:strand-and-cable-products%26Itemid%3D145&rct=j&frm=1&q=&esrc=s&sa=U&ei=nqoIVJWDDcmayAT5hoHQDA&ved=0CBQQFjAA&sig2=1aPQDpfnvYFm8XWlxXxgjw&usg=AFQjCNEns72sjImeKDRibuLmm62WL9bSqA
> 
> The Preform name is often used as a noun by cable apes (-; 
> 
> Carl 
> KM1H 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <donovanf at starpower.net> 
> To: "Bill Wichers" <billw at waveform.net> 
> Cc: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>; <topband at contesting.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:40 PM 
> Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff 
> 
> 
>> Tower guys should use Big Grips, not the performs used by electric 
>> utilities. You can purchase Big Grips from Texas Towers and many other 
>> suppliers 
>> 
>> 73 
>> Frank 
>> W3LPL 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Bill Wichers <billw at waveform.net> 
>> To: Carl <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>, topband at contesting.com 
>> Sent: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 13:31:07 -0400 (EDT) 
>> Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff 
>> 
>> If you only need a few like this, try calling some of the utility 
>> contractors in your area. They will always have the dead ends and the guys 
>> that also do the power work will also have the insulators. They will 
>> probably be able to sell you a few without too much trouble. 
>> 
>> BTW, the utility guys will usually call the "dead ends" "preforms" 
>> (different industry, different terminology :-), but they are the same 
>> thing. The telco/cable guys use 1/4" EHS strand for a support line for 
>> their cables so they will always have hardware for that. The preforms are 
>> cheap enough from the crew's perspective that they are occasionally used 
>> as temporary "twist ties" to hole up cable prior to lashing. 
>> 
>> You can order the stuff from Graybar too (probably the telecom division, 
>> but the power division can get stuff too), but I don't know about their 
>> prices. I've only ever ordered by the carton at work. 
>> 
>> -Bill 
>> 
>> > What I need is: 
>> > 
>> > Up to 12 502 guy insulators 
>> > Up to 18 1/4" deadends/guy grips 
>> > 
>> > Individually prices from dealers is ridiculous and I dont need case 
>> loads as I 
>> > bought when building the other 3 towers in 90-91 and wound up giving 
>> away 
>> > what I didnt use. 
>> > 
>> > Any help appreciated. 
>> > 
>> > Carl 
>> > KM1H 
>> > 
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