Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

[Cecil]

As a follow up...check the PLP product catalog...they make the "Big Grip" product for communications tower guy installations....

Like I said Rohn is just using an existing product made by others.  Can be ordered for less through your local electrical supply house probably...than through a Rohn dealer.

Cecil
K5DL

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> On Sep 4, 2014, at 3:13 PM, donovanf at starpower.net wrote:
> 
> Hi Carl, 
> 
> Preformed Line Products says: ""Guy-Grip Dead-ends are intended for 
> use on single wood poles associated with distribution construction." 
> 
> If you examine the Rohn tower hardware catalog, they list only Big Grips, 
> never a mention of using wood pole Guy Grips on any of their towers 
> 
> For a few dollars more you can use the BG-2144 Big Grip product 
> recommended by the manufacturer for use on towers. 
> 
> Use Guy Grips for wood poles at your own risk... 
> 
> 73 
> Frank 
> W3LPL 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com> 
> To: donovanf at starpower.net, "Bill Wichers" <billw at waveform.net> 
> Cc: topband at contesting.com 
> Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:14:00 PM 
> Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff 
> 
> Not according to the folks that invented them Frank. The Big Grip is a Guy 
> Grip for serious towers. 
> 
> http://www.preformed.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_phocadownload%26view%3Dcategory%26download%3D44:plp-commcatsec20-2012%26id%3D15:strand-and-cable-products%26Itemid%3D145&rct=j&frm=1&q=&esrc=s&sa=U&ei=nqoIVJWDDcmayAT5hoHQDA&ved=0CBQQFjAA&sig2=1aPQDpfnvYFm8XWlxXxgjw&usg=AFQjCNEns72sjImeKDRibuLmm62WL9bSqA
> 
> The Preform name is often used as a noun by cable apes (-; 
> 
> Carl 
> KM1H 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <donovanf at starpower.net> 
> To: "Bill Wichers" <billw at waveform.net> 
> Cc: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>; <topband at contesting.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:40 PM 
> Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff 
> 
> 
>> Tower guys should use Big Grips, not the performs used by electric 
>> utilities. You can purchase Big Grips from Texas Towers and many other 
>> suppliers 
>> 
>> 73 
>> Frank 
>> W3LPL 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Bill Wichers <billw at waveform.net> 
>> To: Carl <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>, topband at contesting.com 
>> Sent: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 13:31:07 -0400 (EDT) 
>> Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff 
>> 
>> If you only need a few like this, try calling some of the utility 
>> contractors in your area. They will always have the dead ends and the guys 
>> that also do the power work will also have the insulators. They will 
>> probably be able to sell you a few without too much trouble. 
>> 
>> BTW, the utility guys will usually call the "dead ends" "preforms" 
>> (different industry, different terminology :-), but they are the same 
>> thing. The telco/cable guys use 1/4" EHS strand for a support line for 
>> their cables so they will always have hardware for that. The preforms are 
>> cheap enough from the crew's perspective that they are occasionally used 
>> as temporary "twist ties" to hole up cable prior to lashing. 
>> 
>> You can order the stuff from Graybar too (probably the telecom division, 
>> but the power division can get stuff too), but I don't know about their 
>> prices. I've only ever ordered by the carton at work. 
>> 
>> -Bill 
>> 
>> > What I need is: 
>> > 
>> > Up to 12 502 guy insulators 
>> > Up to 18 1/4" deadends/guy grips 
>> > 
>> > Individually prices from dealers is ridiculous and I dont need case 
>> loads as I 
>> > bought when building the other 3 towers in 90-91 and wound up giving 
>> away 
>> > what I didnt use. 
>> > 
>> > Any help appreciated. 
>> > 
>> > Carl 
>> > KM1H 
>> > 
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