Topband: Foreign stns using NA remotes for K1N

Joel Harrison w5zn at w5zn.org
Wed Feb 4 20:10:10 EST 2015


Tom - Fair enough. I'll confess I don't know how this is controlled but
since your station, the W8JI station is one of the RHR Premium stations
that RHR subscribers can pay to use I will take it at face value that all
is well.

I am very curious though (seriously) if you, as the station owner, are
aware when someone is using your station via a remote connection and if
you, as the station owner, knows who that individual is??

The answer to that question may help clear up some of the misunderstanding
that exists regarding controls related to remote operation.

73 Joel W5ZN


>> Dave - you are correct. That very statement was rather boldly made by a
>> prominent 160 meter person right here.
>
> That was me. It was a statement of fact.
>
> RHR requires a log in name, password, and they watch IPs. After some early
> abuse, they started checking to be sure the name and password come from
> the
> same IP or IP pool as the user name and password combo. When it is a
> foreign
> user, of which there are a limited number, the traffic is watched.
>
> It is highly unlikely someone used RHR, unless Dave knows of some flaw in
> the system. If Dave does, or if you do Joel, you should do something
> constructive and point out the flaw.
>
>>At the time I thought about
>> throwing the flag on that one but decided, then, not to. I know the
>> remote
>> folks can track ISP addresses of those connected but do not know how
>> they
>> can verify a station outside the country where the remote is located is
>> identifying correctly and lawfully.
>>
>
> RHR is getting the heat here when, factually, Dave probably hasn't the
> faintest idea who or what was being used and/or where the station was
> coming
> from.
>
> This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Someone makes a doomsday prediction.
> Hearing something funny, the conclusion is it had to be via RHR. Then Joel
> decides if Dave said it, it must be right. W8JI has to be wrong, because
> Dave knows more about RHR procedures and can monitor the system better
> then
> Tom can, looking at site operation data.
>
> :-)
>
> We are not only so clairvoyant as a group that we know everything that
> happened with ZM enough to publically lynch him, we now are such experts
> on
> remote radio we know what system it came from.
>
>
>> So, I'll make a bold statement here....The remote folks don't care and
>> will not control it as long as the $$$$ are flowing in. Money talks and
>> the rules can go to hell.
>
> What a bizarre statement!
>
>> Am I wrong?? Then prove me wrong and let's see some hammering down on
>> this
>> by the remote folks.
>
> Unfortunately, no one can correct what is in someone else's imagination or
> opinion. Facts will never overcome good old fashioned emotional-driven
> opinions.
>
> 73 Tom
>
>


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