Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances

[Fortra]

Dado Hi:)

Jim is right. Whenever we talk about figures/numbers, they have
different meaning from "ethics".
Regarding ethics, jeez that is such a broad subject, that broad, that i 
would not
dare to start it....

I understand your concern, but this is utterly wrong to expect that someone
would pay my pleasure....as i said previously, there are no free lunches...

So we better stop brag about it, and contribute to group of brave
operators and it's supporters...

73's Nermin S58DX


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dragoslav Balaban" <dado at prijedor.com>
To: <topband at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances


> >It appears to be the case that NA finances the big trips and EU gets the
> Q's. That needs to be ironed out.
>
>>Garry
>
>
>
>>while EU hams are very demanding, they don't do much to contribute to the
> cost.
>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
>
> Funny that there is no comment abt this???
>
> I also don't think something like that deserve any comment, but cant 
> hold...
>
>
>
> I suggest that for those, who support this Opinion,
>
> that DX Mart or DX Supermarket  should be started, so only one who pay get
> QSO, its a true HAM spirit.  and then pay again for QSL...
>
>
>
> Maybe expedition even need not to go to the entity at all, why make cost,
> waste time and money, etc???
>
>
>
> also, who pay more should get QSO first, and/or more QSO, maye to charge 
> by
> Band / Mode...
>
> and maybe, as Premium service, no need to work DX Exped at all, QSO would 
> be
> entered in LOG automatically,
>
> and VIP QSL send, plus  LoTW confirmation and eQSL as free Bonus
>
>
>
> I promise, will not call such Expedition ever, and I will not be angry and
> make DQRM for sure...
>
> I also promise, I will not charge for any QSO with E74AW, or QSL , except
> usual practice, and will work as good DX Operating practice demand,
>
> mean,  will not wait for daylight in NA, to call NA, and will not call EU 
> in
> my SR when is time to work NA, or will not work EU when is JA SR etc...
>
>
>
> Its just my humble opinion, I do not ask anyone to agree or disagree with
> me...
>
> And Im not angry to anyone, ...
>
>
>
> gl to all who think this kind of HAM radio should be
>
>
>
> 73 dado E74AW
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Larry
> Sent: Friday, 06 February, 2015 04:28
> To: topband at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
>
>
>
> Someone did a more extensive analysis of several DXpeditions maybe 2 or 3
> years ago. Basically the same conclusion. Typically  NA puts up the 
> largest
> percentage of the funds but doesn't get that percentage in Q's. I forget
> which group it was posted in.
>
>
>
> 73, Larry  W6NWS
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Garry Shapiro
>
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 8:43 PM
>
> To:  <mailto:topband at contesting.com> topband at contesting.com
>
> Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
>
>
>
> It appears to be the case that NA finances the big trips and EU gets the
> Q's. That needs to be ironed out.
>
>
>
> Garry
>
>
>
> On 2/5/2015 11:32 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
>
>> On Thu,2/5/2015 8:29 AM, Fortra wrote:
>
>>> jeez those numbers are worrying.
>
>>
>
>> So are the numbers for contributions to the cost of DX trips that have
>
>> gotten increasingly expensive. The only way to get on the island is
>
>> via a helicopter, and they have had to make many trips.
>
>>
>
>> Some of my friends go on these trips (three are on Navassa), and all
>
>> of them complain that while EU hams are very demanding, they don't do
>
>> much to contribute to the cost. Take a look at the "News" tab on this
>
>> link, then the "Our Sponsors" tab, noting the breakdown by continent
>
>> for contributions from Clubs and individual hams.
>
>>
>
>>  <http://www.navassadx.com/> http://www.navassadx.com/
>
>>
>
>> All of that notwithstanding, some of the key players on this
>
>> expedition were also part of FT5ZM, which did a spectacular job of
>
>> filling logs everywhere, taking advantage of propagation and great 
>> station
> engineering.
>
>> AA7JV and HA7RY are part of this trip. Their topband record is excellent.
>
>> And they're not the only guys who know how to work topband.
>
>>
>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>>
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