Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances

[Garry Shapiro]

Dado,

When you go to see a film, do you expect your neighbor to buy your 
ticket? Do you complain when you do not like the film?

When you buy a car, do you expect your neighbor to pay the dealer? Do 
you complain when the car is not perfect?

When you go to a restaurant, do you expect your neighbor to buy you 
dinner? Do you complain if you do not like the food?

If you do, and get away with it, then you go right ahead and let your 
fellow hams pay for your DXing. You are obviously an important person 
and deserve such consideration. ;-)
It therefore must be a privilege for me to support your hobby for you, 
and thank you.

Back during the Arab oil embargo in 1973, there was a very popular 
bumper sticker in the US which said:

"Gas, grass or a**: nobody rides free."  That is American slang, but I 
think you can figure it out.

Garry, NI6T


On 2/6/2015 3:55 AM, Dragoslav Balaban wrote:
>> It appears to be the case that NA finances the big trips and EU gets the
> Q's. That needs to be ironed out.
>
>> Garry
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>> while EU hams are very demanding, they don't do much to contribute to the
> cost.
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>> 73, Jim K9YC
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> Funny that there is no comment abt this???
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> I also don't think something like that deserve any comment, but cant hold...
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> I suggest that for those, who support this Opinion,
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> that DX Mart or DX Supermarket  should be started, so only one who pay get
> QSO, its a true HAM spirit.  and then pay again for QSL...
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> Maybe expedition even need not to go to the entity at all, why make cost,
> waste time and money, etc???
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> also, who pay more should get QSO first, and/or more QSO, maye to charge by
> Band / Mode...
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> and maybe, as Premium service, no need to work DX Exped at all, QSO would be
> entered in LOG automatically,
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> and VIP QSL send, plus  LoTW confirmation and eQSL as free Bonus
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> I promise, will not call such Expedition ever, and I will not be angry and
> make DQRM for sure...
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> I also promise, I will not charge for any QSO with E74AW, or QSL , except
> usual practice, and will work as good DX Operating practice demand,
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> mean,  will not wait for daylight in NA, to call NA, and will not call EU in
> my SR when is time to work NA, or will not work EU when is JA SR etc...
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> Its just my humble opinion, I do not ask anyone to agree or disagree with
> me...
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> And Im not angry to anyone, ...
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> gl to all who think this kind of HAM radio should be
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> 73 dado E74AW
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Larry
> Sent: Friday, 06 February, 2015 04:28
> To: topband at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
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> Someone did a more extensive analysis of several DXpeditions maybe 2 or 3
> years ago. Basically the same conclusion. Typically  NA puts up the largest
> percentage of the funds but doesn't get that percentage in Q's. I forget
> which group it was posted in.
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> 73, Larry  W6NWS
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: Garry Shapiro
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> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 8:43 PM
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> To:  <mailto:topband at contesting.com> topband at contesting.com
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> Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
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> It appears to be the case that NA finances the big trips and EU gets the
> Q's. That needs to be ironed out.
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> Garry
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> On 2/5/2015 11:32 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
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>> On Thu,2/5/2015 8:29 AM, Fortra wrote:
>>> jeez those numbers are worrying.
>> So are the numbers for contributions to the cost of DX trips that have
>> gotten increasingly expensive. The only way to get on the island is
>> via a helicopter, and they have had to make many trips.
>> Some of my friends go on these trips (three are on Navassa), and all
>> of them complain that while EU hams are very demanding, they don't do
>> much to contribute to the cost. Take a look at the "News" tab on this
>> link, then the "Our Sponsors" tab, noting the breakdown by continent
>> for contributions from Clubs and individual hams.
>>   <http://www.navassadx.com/> http://www.navassadx.com/
>> All of that notwithstanding, some of the key players on this
>> expedition were also part of FT5ZM, which did a spectacular job of
>> filling logs everywhere, taking advantage of propagation and great station
> engineering.
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>> AA7JV and HA7RY are part of this trip. Their topband record is excellent.
>> And they're not the only guys who know how to work topband.
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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