Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances

[Larry]

The last time I saw numbers several years ago the US had something like 
530,000 licensed hams which I think was more than all other countries 
together (or close to it). No way to know what percentage are DXers and 
possibly concerned with working a particular DXpedition. However, it might 
be more relevant if the percentages of financing were percentages of DXers 
that contributed. It may be still skewed of course.

The percentage of QSOs doesn't really account for propagation or distance to 
between the DXpedition site and DXer QTH. I have been on the radio at times 
where working the next county (let alone another country) was an amazing 
feat on HF but I have also been on at times where you could work just about 
any place in the world at the same time. When I have operated from XV 
openings to the East Coast of the US have not been very often and are 
usually of short duration. Openings to South America even fewer and more 
challenging. Openings to Europe are usually everyday. It certainly has an 
effect on where the QSOs are made.

73, Larry  W6NWS
-----Original Message----- 
From: Doug Renwick
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 8:36 AM
To: 'Victor Goncharsky' ; garry at ni6t.com ; topband at contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances

The point that Garry is making, he did it very well, is that EU as a group
should contribute more than what they are presently doing.  And he is right.

Doug


-----Original Message-----

Garry,
In the good old days when I was learning the art of ham radio from Don
Miller's DX and contest operations and my Dad UB5WF, I've got an idea of the
ham spirit that makes all of us equal under the Sun.
This is the corner stone of our hobby - the equality, no matter how much
one's paid for the hardware and antennae or has donated for a certain
expedition.
You presume that although we are equal, the country which paid more is more
equal then the others.
I think this is completely wrong.
In fact, how can you distinguish between those US hams who paid and those
who not? Does it mean that their countrymen, in accordance with your theory,
have paid for their free lunch?
I was fortunate to have them all before the era of unproportionally
expensive dxpeditions and accompanying aggressive fundraising has come.

Пятница, 06 февраля 2015, 18:27 -08:00 от Garry Shapiro <garry at ni6t.com>:
>Dado,
>
>When you go to see a film, do you expect your neighbor to buy your
>ticket? Do you complain when you do not like the film?
>
>When you buy a car, do you expect your neighbor to pay the dealer? Do
>you complain when the car is not perfect?
>
>When you go to a restaurant, do you expect your neighbor to buy you
>dinner? Do you complain if you do not like the food?
>
>If you do, and get away with it, then you go right ahead and let your
>fellow hams pay for your DXing. You are obviously an important person
>and deserve such consideration. ;-)
>It therefore must be a privilege for me to support your hobby for you,
>and thank you.
>
>Back during the Arab oil embargo in 1973, there was a very popular
>bumper sticker in the US which said:
>
>"Gas, grass or a**: nobody rides free."  That is American slang, but I
>think you can figure it out.
>
>Garry, NI6T
>


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