Topband: Modeling "Ground" and losses

[Tim Shoppa]

Radials into neighbors back yard? Yep. At least on contest nights!

Radials across basement ceiling and out other side of the house? Yep.

Radials across garage floor, out garage windows, through bushes, and across
driveway? Yep.

I am not abandoning radials as my counterpoise solution!!!

But of course Guy, if any US contest stations want to abandon their radial
systems in the DX contests, for any reason I'm all for it!!!

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Clive GM3POI <gm3poi2 at btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >  So the unfortunate reality for amateurs is the shorter the vertical is
> > from
> > a quarter wave, Ideally the longer the radials need to be.
> >
>
> Indeed. But if the longer radials put your wire in your neighbor's back
> yard, or run out into the street, or into your basement, then radials need
> to be abandoned as your counterpoise solution.
>
> That in turn begets the dire need for something counterpoise and efficient
> that is not radials. That in turn begat the FCP, designed specifically to
> minimize ground losses in far less space than radials.
>
> 73, Guy
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