Topband: Fwd: ARRL Board meets next week - I'm looking for input

Fri Jul 10 22:02:24 EDT 2015

Hi Greg,

I think we have a little misunderstanding.  None of these arguments 
are against remote operation !
I am all for remote operation  even from space, what ever floats your boat.  
The issue is DXCC award entitlement.  
A proposal was suggested to have separate DXCC award categories for home vs remote.  
That way everyone can pursue DXCC to their hearts content and in each category there is a level playing field.
(that is the crux of the issue)

73,
Bob
K6UJ

> On Jul 10, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Greg Zenger <n2gz at gregzenger.com> wrote:
> 
> Bob and the others,
> 
> I understand (and even agree with, at least to an extent) many of the
> arguments against remote operation. It seems like most of these arguments
> are against remote stations that are rented, or remote stations that are
> self owned but at a different location than the operators primary operating
> location (Other side of country, lower noise QTH, etc.)
> 
> Do you have a problem with those of us who operate our own primary stations
> remotely?  Sometimes I am sent out of the continental USA for business
> trips, and I can be away for months at a time.  I'm likely to miss a good
> DXpedition or two during that time away. By operating remotely, it gives me
> something to do in the hotel room when the work for the day is complete,
> and it drives me to build a more robust and reliable station, because I
> dont have the luxury of making repairs until I return home.  It sure is
> nice to have these 'remote' contacts that I make count towards my award.
> Afterall, every contact applied toward my award was made from the same
> antennas, connected to the same radios, in the same yard, regardless of
> where I was when I touched the paddles or PTT.
> 
> Curious to hear your opinions on this particular angle.
> 
> 73,
> Greg N2GZ
> 
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 8:42 PM, Robert Harmon <k6uj at pacbell.net> wrote:
> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> I also do not like the idea of remote station operation being acceptable
>> for DXCC.
>> (Charlie, you have one more year on me,   I was licensed in 1958 :-)
>> I have pursued the DXCC awards for all these years and now to allow remote
>> op to be granted
>> the same awards gives the DXCC awards almost zero value. Whether the
>> remote operation is
>> rented or self owned it makes no difference.  I'm sure a lot of us have
>> the same thinking on this
>> but haven't had the opportunity to express our feelings.  Actually I
>> believe the majority of ARRL DXers feel this
>> way.   I think the board needs to find a way to get input from the
>> majority !
>> Lastly,  One consideration for the board to look at is to have a separate
>> DXCC category for remote operation. Then
>> everyone is happy and there would be a level playing field for each
>> category, home station or remote.  (After all that is the
>> crux of the issue)
>> 
>> 
>> 73,
>> Bob
>> K6UJ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Charles Cu nningham <
>> charlie-cunningham at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Mike
>>> 
>>> Well, I've been licensed and a DXer since February 1957.  In my opinion
>>> remote stations and operations should NOT be acceptable for DXCC.
>> Perhaps a
>>> special NEW DXCC could be established for those operations Most of us
>> over
>>> the decades have worked diligently so improve our stations and antennas
>>> within the bounds available to us!  To have to compete with remote Super
>>> Stations that are sited to provide significant advantages on certain DX
>>> paths or bands REALLY spoils it for oo many of us, and establishes is as
>> a
>>> "Sport for the Rich" like so many other things in our society!  I am
>> opposed
>>> to offering conventional "DXCC" credit for remote operations!
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Charlie, K4OTV
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tony
>>> K1AMF
>>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:10 AM
>>> To: topband at contesting.com
>>> Subject: Topband: Fwd: ARRL Board meets next week - I'm looking for input
>>> 
>>> FYI, now's your chance to speak up if you haven't already.  Please e-mail
>>> N2YBB or other ARRL board members directly with any questions or
>> comments.
>>> Not looking to rehash things here on the reflector.
>>> 
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: ARRL Members Only Web site <memberlist at www.arrl.org>
>>> Date: 07/09/2015  7:01 PM  (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: k1amf at live.com
>>> Subject: ARRL Board meets next week - I'm looking for input
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Next week, the Board of Directors will be holding their second meeting of
>>> the year.  One of the topics up for discussion is the recent change in
>> DXCC
>>> rules, particularly as to the use of remote operations for DXCC credit.
>>> 
>>> I would be interested in knowing what you, the ARRL member, feel about
>> the
>>> rules for DXCC.  In particular, I would like to know what your opinion is
>>> regarding crediting (for awards) DX contacts made by remote control
>>> operations, be they through self owned or rented stations.
>>> 
>>> I would be also be interested in your experiences if you have operated
>>> remotely in chasing DX for DXCC credit.
>>> 
>>> If you have any other items of interest, please also let me know.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> 73 de Mike N2YBB
>>> 
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