Topband: 160 4 square

Lee STRAHAN k7tjr at
Mon Aug 28 12:45:41 EDT 2017

   Good morning all,
      What I can tell you about the two antennas for 160 meter receiving is that as many have said before, you cannot have too many receiving antennas for 160 meters. Before Dale N4NN became ill and passed, Dale and I maintained near daily contact. Dale had the Hi-Z 8 element with very little local noise. We always quietly compared his station with what you were reporting JC. As near as I could tell in the Florida area the two antennas were very close to each other. Most often both antennas would hear the same signals.
  There are a couple more contest stations that actually have both a horizontal Waller flag and a Hi-Z 4-8pro or 8A 8 circle. In one case the verticals are the preferred and in the other the word is you need both antennas. My opinion, I think it depends quite a bit on station location. That is, I think on stations near the ocean coasts the horizontal Waller flag hears very well. Again, my opinion but I don’t think it works as well in the mid lands or receiving over long stretches of land. Eventually we will have enough history to really know for sure if one or the other is better. Again, there is likely advantages to either one at different times or locations. Suffice to say there is lots left to be learned
    In that regard, some stations have reported the Hi-Z full sized 8 circle to not quite have enough sensitivity in really quiet background noise areas. I have developed a means to reduce the noise figure of that array very significantly and the first beta test users are reporting a definite improvement to the standard Hi-Z 200 foot 8 circle on 160 meters for those fortunate enough to have a really quiet location.
Lee   K7TJR

From: Bob Kupps [mailto:n6bk at]
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 5:58 AM
To: JC <n4is at>; 'Lee STRAHAN' <k7tjr at>; 'GaryK9GS' <garyk9gs at>; 'Greg' <n4cc at>; 'topband' <topband at>
Subject: Re: Topband: 160 4 square

Well I ordered one about half a year ago so if it ever comes I will be able to compare it directly with my HiZ 8 circle array and get a definitive answer. We have no local noise here only propagated tropical QRN.

73 Bob HS0ZIA

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