Topband: FT8 Usage or CW QRM

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

On 11/30/2017 6:05 AM, Ed Sawyer wrote:
> There is a simple way to solve the 1840 problem. Just "update the
> app" to default to 1980 and the whole 2.5khz crowd will move up
> there.

The FT8 operator has every right to operate in an area that will allow
him international QSOs - just as CW and SSB operators.

The issue here is no different that CW operators' treatment of "phone"
and AM operator's treatment of "silly slop bucket."  It is time for
everyone - including FT8 operators - to back off and remember that
*nobody 'owns' any frequency*.  If the FT8 operators can't handle
adjacent CW signals within their receiver passband, they need to get
rid of their "broad as a barn" SDR crap and get receivers that can
handle 90+ dB dynamic range at 500 Hz.  CW and SSB operators are going
to need to recognize legitimate amateur digital signals - either by
ear or using a panadapter - and stop transmitting over them as if they
were so much "noise".

Neither side in this food fight has clean hands.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 11/30/2017 6:05 AM, Ed Sawyer wrote:
> The more I hear and learn about FT8, the more amazingly bad this mode
> sounds.
> 
>   
> 
> There is a simple way to solve the 1840 problem.  Just "update the app" to
> default to 1980 and the whole 2.5khz crowd will move up there.  Amazingly,
> most won't even know they moved, they will just wonder why their 160M
> antenna "isn't working the way it used to".  But then hit the tuner button
> and call it a day.
> 
>   
> 
> This is essentially the same dialog the automotive industry is having on
> autonomous vehicles.  When "normal life" interferes with efficient driving
> algorithm, the answer is to eliminate normal life (ie - special lanes on
> highways).  Sounds like FT8 just needs its own spectrum spice to be
> sanctioned legally be the Region Bandplans.  And because IT is the one
> needing the special treatment, it can adopt to whatever spot is decided for
> it.  For 160M - clearly 2000 - 1980 would provide the necessary 10
> "channels" it requires for future growth.
> 
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> 
> 73
> 
>   
> 
> Ed N1UR
> 
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