Topband: 160

Renee K6FSB k6fsb.1 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 3 15:08:25 EDT 2019 

I agree. It is disconcerting to reference something we cannot all access.
If possible at least place said info where those that wish to access may 
do so.
if possible paraphrase-
The "how to article" in question from QST 1972 where an operator makes a 
completely operator free station to make contacts.....bottom line 
"somehow it (ham radio) just doesn't seem to be as much fun as it used 
to be.......... "
tnx e 73
Renée, K6FSB


On 2019-08-03 11:49 a.m., Martin Kratoska wrote:
> Gentlemen,
>
> stop this annoying practice, please! Not all are ARRL members!
>
> Thanks for understanding,
>
> 73
> Martin, OK1RR
>
>
> Dne 03. 08. 19 v 20:20 donovanf at starpower.net napsal(a):
>>
>> Hi Bob
>>
>> The "how to" article is right here:
>>
>>
>> http://p1k.arrl.org/pubs_archive/63144
>>
>>
>> 73
>> Frank
>> W3LPL
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Robert Brennan via Topband" <topband at contesting.com>
>> To: "Cecil" <chacuff at cableone.net>
>> Cc: "rich k7zv" <rich_k7zv at gphilltop.com>, "Harald Rester" 
>> <harryrester at gmx.de>, "Alan Swinger" <awswinger at earthlink.net>, 
>> topband at contesting.com
>> Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 10:00:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: Topband: 160
>>
>> Gentleman,
>> I have been using ft8 now for a little over a year now and have been 
>> relatively successful with it.
>> I also use CW and SSB.
>> If I can set up my station on ft8 and have it run automatically and 
>> collect new entities.
>> I would really like to know how to do that.
>> Perhaps one of you can write an article for QST.
>>
>> 73 Bob ad6hf
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 2, 2019, at 2:45 PM, Cecil <chacuff at cableone.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>>> On Aug 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Alan Swinger <awswinger at earthlink.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> . Since FT8 operators can walk away and not participate in QSOs, 
>>>> and come back after some other activity and see how many new 
>>>> countries and QSOs that the computer made, this is unlike Digital 
>>>> modes where operators must remain engaged to make QSOs. Therefore, 
>>>> seems to me that such Computer-generated contacts should have a 
>>>> separate category in the current award systems since the operators 
>>>> are not directly involved in making the QSOs . . . call it 
>>>> Computer-Aided Digital or something more clever. No argument that 
>>>> skill is required to set up a station to make FT-8 contacts, but a 
>>>> different set than what those of us who work DXCC, Challenge, etc 
>>>> use on CW, RTTY, and SSB, including those towers, expensive 
>>>> equipment, skills, and years of hard work to get the new ones when 
>>>> there was NO FT-8 or similar modes!
>>>> So, I do not be begrudge the new low signal computer-aided modes, 
>>>> nor do I cast aspersions on the Ops who enjoy using them . . . even 
>>>> though I am unlikely to join their ranks, but the Ham community 
>>>> should not penalize those of us who used non-FT modes to get our 
>>>> hard earned awards by giving an unfair advantage to a new 
>>>> technology. We (Ham Radio) need the New Technology, but these modes 
>>>> are sufficiently different in many ways from the older modes that 
>>>> justifies a separate category in the award spectrum. Therefore, I 
>>>> urge the ARRL and the CQ Magazine leadership to establish a Digital 
>>>> award category that is separate and different from the current DXCC 
>>>> et al Digital criteria.
>>>> Alan Swinger K9MBQ
>>>> Charlottesville, VA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rich_k7zv at gphilltop.com
>>>>> Sent: Aug 2, 2019 4:22 PM
>>>>> To: Harald Rester <harryrester at gmx.de>
>>>>> Cc: topband at contesting.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Topband: 160
>>>>>
>>>>> As ham radio changes there will remain at least a niche for CW, 
>>>>> SSB, and
>>>>> RTTY and it's competitions. FT8 will supplement the bands , not 
>>>>> supplant
>>>>> it, IMO. Do you think FT8, FT4 and whatever digital modes come 
>>>>> along are
>>>>> the future or will something else take its place? Who knows... 
>>>>> time and
>>>>> technology moves on. Maybe it might attract some of the 
>>>>> Millennials to
>>>>> fill in the void by us Baby Boomers who will all too soon be making.
>>>>> Let's set a good example for them to follow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich K7ZV
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2019-08-02 12:42 pm, Harald Rester wrote:
>>>>>> Think about the time *we all *could have been on the air, while 
>>>>>> staring
>>>>>> at our screens, typing and reading. I make QSY to the shack - Hpe 
>>>>>> CU!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Harry, DH1NBE
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 02.08.2019 um 21:26 schrieb uy0zg:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not propose stopping the FT8.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just compete with each other.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But keep in mind - Arnold will be the first -)):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.alamy.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-terminator-2-judgment-day-1991-image66516208.html 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Nick, UY0ZG
>>>>>>> http://www.topband.in.ua
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> W0MU Mike Fatchett писал 2019-08-02 21:52:
>>>>>>>> Ah so all FT8 users are cheaters. Does that mean that all Russian
>>>>>>>> hams use way more power than they should and their scores 
>>>>>>>> should not
>>>>>>>> count either?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The real issue here is change. Ham radio has been in constant 
>>>>>>>> motion
>>>>>>>> and change since it started and I hope in continues that way well
>>>>>>>> after we are dead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So we better stop FT8 and protect VE1ZZ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry no.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8/2/2019 12:45 PM, uy0zg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello, Mike
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is how the world works so that humanity always has moral
>>>>>>>>> values.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They must be protected.
>>>>>>>>> Example:
>>>>>>>>> in a few years, 334 VE1ZZ countries will lose their value. His
>>>>>>>>> achievements will be eaten by computer programs and robots ....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is right ?
>>>>>>>>> Will there be many talents at 160 meters like Jack?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Will not be !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On the contrary - more and more stupidity and envy....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> Nick, UY0ZG
>>>>>>>>> http://www.topband.in.ua
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> W0MU Mike Fatchett писал 2019-08-02 18:24:
>>>>>>>>>> Cheating is cheating. How many people used remote stations,
>>>>>>>>>> exceeded
>>>>>>>>>> their power limits, etc. Singling out a mode because you are
>>>>>>>>>> upset
>>>>>>>>>> that it has taken away activity in your preferred mode is not
>>>>>>>>>> helpful
>>>>>>>>>> to the hobby. Not everyone that use FT8 cheats. Not everyone
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> uses a amp that exceeds their legal limit uses it in that 
>>>>>>>>>> fashion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How can you guarantee that everyone on the "Honor Role" was 100
>>>>>>>>>> percent honorable or even anyone that got DXCC did it right? You
>>>>>>>>>> can't so please stop singling out a mode you don't care for. We
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> it. Move on. It is here. Just like the Reverse beacon, packet
>>>>>>>>>> cluster, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We are all hams enjoying many aspects of the hobby. Can't we get
>>>>>>>>>> along?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> W0MU
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