Topband: Inverted L - newbie questions

N4ZR n4zr at comcast.net
Wed Aug 21 15:22:29 EDT 2019


Jumper was 1 foot.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 8/21/2019 12:47 PM, WW3S wrote:
> Where did you connect the analyzer? You want it as close as possible to the feed point, with as little length of coax jumper as possible. Even a 6 ft jumper can skew the results, been there done that....
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>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Jeff Blaine <KeepWalking188 at ac0c.com> wrote:
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>> An inverted L without radials is a random length wire and the measurements are of no meaning until there is a ground system to make up the other half of the antenna.
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>> But to Wes point, the 259 and big 160m antennas is a recipe for going nuts.  You don't even need a high powered BC station - even a low powered station a pretty far distance away can cause the 259 to give results in error.  A VNA or something like the Rig Expert are FAR more robust in this application.
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>>> On 8/21/19 12:04 AM, Wes wrote:
>>> How many high-powered BC stations do you have around?
>>>
>>> Wes  N7WS
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>>>> On 8/21/2019 8:55 AM, N4ZR wrote:
>>>> I just put up an inverted L, with a vertical length of about 60 feet, and a total of 135 feet.  It is fed through 16 turns of RG-400 on a ferrite core at the base. There are, as yet, no radials.
>>>>
>>>> Because I was impatient to see what was going on, I grounded the shield to a single copper-plated ground rod and connected my MFJ259B. I expected a high R value, and I got one - 112-122 ohms. But surprisingly (to me), lowest SWR was at 2.070 MHz, and X remained at zero over quite a wide range - all the way down to about 1.7 MHz.
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>>>> Is this all to be expected?  I plan to put down at least minimum radials in the next few days, and would expect the R value to drop as I do so. Am I off-base?
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