Topband: BOG Beverage on Ground Help

K9FD merv.k9fd at gmail.com
Tue Dec 3 16:26:46 EST 2019


WOG  wire on the ground

> I agree with Bob. I think the name BOG is firmly entrenched, whatever the
> electrical differences. Oh, I could propose a new name, but I doubt it
> would ever stick.
>
> I'll go back to my Otter/Platypus to propose a parable:
>
> Suppose that the Platypus had instead gotten the name of Duckfaced Otter,
> and that was firmly entrenched in the language regardless of the science
> placing the Duckfaced in a different Latin-worded species.
>
> Then on a reflector, an argument crops up, someone says that the Duckfaced
> Otter lays eggs. Others deride that statement, saying everyone knows that
> an Otter is a mammal, that mammals give live birth and Otters do not lay
> eggs. Some, quite irritated, ask wouldn't the Duckfaced Otter have been
> named differently if it was really that different? Probably because it was
> named centuries before people knew it laid eggs.
>
> In the science, the egg-laying, out of many differences, all by
> itself would put the Duckfaced Otter into a different species, because such
> differences are what define different species. Overall, most already know
> that the Duckfaced Otter only *looks* like an otter, really isn't. But they
> still call it the Duckfaced Otter because that's what the language calls
> it. Who among us ever gets to successfully take on the language?
>
> ---End of Parable---
>
> Beverage                       Otter
>
> On-ground Beverage     Duckfaced Otter
>
> Both are a longish          Both have brown
> wire parallel to earth,      water repellent fur coat.
> only used for RX.            and love the water.
>
> Isn't it really about time that the masses on the reflectors know that a
> BOG has irritating issues that no up-in-the-air beverage has to design
> around, but must be taken into account designing a BOG? That any Beverage
> strategy has to be analyzed laying on the ground to see if it really
> applies to a BOG?
>
> The antenna category is Ground Low Velocity Factor. The short for that
> could be GLVF, except we already call those -on-ground or OG. Dipole on
> Ground is a DOG, Loop on Ground is a LOG, Beverage on ground is a BOG. In
> this system "Beverage" is only one possible shape of the wire laying on the
> ground. How a BOG behaves and how to engineer/model one is really only one
> application of how OG behaves and how to engineer OG.
>
> I think OG is just fine. I don't think OG needs a new name. Just remember
> that BOG is only one shape instance of OG, and OG controls the engineering.
>
> 73, Guy K2AV
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 6:38 PM Chortek, Robert L. <
> Robert.Chortek at berliner.com> wrote:
>
>> I don’t think it matters what label we use as long as we correctly
>> understand its electrical properties.....
>>
>> AA6VB
>>
>> Bob
>> Robert L. Chortek
>>
>>> On Dec 2, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> [External Email]
>>>
>>> K2AV says ".BOG is not a Beverage. So don't think about or treat a BOG
>> like
>>> a Beverage."
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You seem pretty adamant about that Guy.
>>>
>>> What *SHOULD* we be calling it then please?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Keswick Ridge, NB
>>>
>>>
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