Hi Jeff, You say,, "I put down 5/8" CATV when I moved the 40m 4sq back down to the ground -" It sounds like you had an elevated 4 sq, that you went back to the ground. Can I ask why you went back to the ground? Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com