Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage

Sat May 9 12:11:13 EDT 2020

Another option to consider for reversible Beverage.  Single RG-6 as the
antenna element.

https://www.unifiedmicro.com/bevflex4x.html

Ned
WC4X

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Today's Topics:

   1. 2 wire reversible Beverage (Fred Moeves)
   2. Re: 2 wire reversible Beverage (Mike Waters)
   3. Re: 2 wire reversible Beverage (Fred Moeves)
   4. Re: 2 wire reversible Beverage (fmoeves)
   5. Re: 2 wire reversible Beverage (fmoeves)
   6. Re: 2 wire reversible Beverage (Gabriel - EA6VQ)
   7. Re: 2 wire reversible Beverage (fmoeves)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 14:04:27 -0400
From: Fred Moeves <fmoeves at twc.com>
To: topband at contesting.com
Subject: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage
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Getting ready to put up a 2 wire reversible Beverage and I have a few 
questions and looking for some ideas?

Sorry I?m sure this subject has been beat to death? I did some searches 
but didn?t find what I was looking for.

My understanding is the wires need to be in the horizontal plane to keep 
everything balanced.

Also I am assuming I can use THHN wire and twist it together and then 
put both wires on one insulator.

Or another way would put insulators on the side of trees and separate 
them by a couple of inches?like ladder line.

Just wondering which way would be easiest to build and give the best 
performance?

To me it would seem to easier to put 2 wires together on just one insulator.

I will be installing this on the trees in a heavily wooded area.

It seems building the antenna with 2 wires and keeping them parallel and 
same distance from the ground will not be easy.

Thanks

Fred KB4QZH

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 13:15:10 -0500
From: Mike Waters <mikewate at gmail.com>
To: topband at contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage
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https://web.archive.org/web/20181115070846/http://www.w0btu.com/Beverage_ant
ennas.html

73, Mike
W0BTU

On Fri, May 8, 2020, 1:12 PM Fred Moeves <fmoeves at twc.com> wrote:

> Getting ready to put up a 2 wire reversible Beverage and I have a few
> questions and looking for some ideas?
>

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 14:32:52 -0400
From: Fred Moeves <fmoeves at twc.com>
To: topband at contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage
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Thanks Mike,

I have your site bookmarked and been going over the info.

Using you your info I built 2 different Beverages and they work great.

Easy to build and very forgiving.

But 2 wire is new to me and hoping they are also very forgiving in the 
way they work.

Thanks

Fred KB4QZH

On 5/8/2020 2:15 PM, Mike Waters wrote:
>
https://web.archive.org/web/20181115070846/http://www.w0btu.com/Beverage_ant
ennas.html
>
> 73, Mike
> W0BTU
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2020, 1:12 PM Fred Moeves <fmoeves at twc.com> wrote:
>
>> Getting ready to put up a 2 wire reversible Beverage and I have a few
>> questions and looking for some ideas?
>>
> _________________
> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 08 May 2020 15:29:57 -0400
From: fmoeves <fmoeves at twc.com>
To: topband at contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage
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Dave,?Thank you for the info.?That's another good option.?Here in KY I have
yet to see anything bite into my feedlines and I have many on the
ground.?I'm trying to keep the antenna from being seen too. I've had kids
tear up one on my Beverages.?Thanks?Fred KB4QZH?
-------- Original message --------From: Artek Manuals
<Manuals at ArtekManuals.com> Date: 5/8/20  3:05 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Fred
Moeves <fmoeves at twc.com> Subject: Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage
Beverage made out RG6 coax is an easier way to go and easier to "manage"
than either the two wire or twisted versions. You can get a 500 foot role at
the local big box home & lumber for less than $40Misek's "Beverage Antenna
Handbook" is generally a good source , a few pieces of misinformation in
there but that is what I use . I currently have a "reversible"? 470'
beverage made this way and a 200' bog. Also ON4UN's Low band dxing is
invaluable read for beveragesThe only draw back I have found with mine is
getting good quality female F connectors. There are reports that certain
varmints like to chew the PVC jacket in the winter. But I personally have
not had problems.DaveNR1DXOn 5/8/2020 2:04 PM, Fred Moeves wrote:> Getting
ready to put up a 2 wire reversible Beverage and I have a few > qu
 estions and looking for some ideas?>> Sorry I?m sure this subject has been
beat to death? I did some > searches but didn?t find what I was looking
for.>> My understanding is the wires need to be in the horizontal plane to >
keep everything balanced.>> Also I am assuming I can use THHN wire and twist
it together and then > put both wires on one insulator.>> Or another way
would put insulators on the side of trees and separate > them by a couple of
inches?like ladder line.>> Just wondering which way would be easiest to
build and give the best > performance?>> To me it would seem to easier to
put 2 wires together on just one > insulator.>> I will be installing this on
the trees in a heavily wooded area.>> It seems building the antenna with 2
wires and keeping them parallel > and same distance from the ground will not
be easy.>> Thanks>> Fred KB4QZH>> _________________> Searchable Archives:
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 08 May 2020 17:45:10 -0400
From: fmoeves <fmoeves at twc.com>
To: topband at contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage
Message-ID: <mailman.21.1589040002.22533.topband at contesting.com>
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Thanks Gary,?Lots of good info.?I have a little bit of all the wire you
mentioned in your post.?I will check out Luis's site also.?Thank you?Fred
KB4QZH?
-------- Original message --------From: Gary Nichols <kd9sv at comcast.net>
Date: 5/8/20  4:06 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 'Fred Moeves' <fmoeves at twc.com>
Subject: RE: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage Fred, the rev bev is very
easy to build and very forgiving.? My designs are all based on the approx.
150 ohm impedance of military field wire WD-1A or also speaker wire or low
voltage landscape lighting wire which is a zip cord style.? Telephone drop
wire or entrance cable is also easy to use and rather inexpensive,
especially in Europe and is sometimes referred to as "Killu" wire in
Denmark.? See IV3PRK's blog for info about BOG and RBOG studies Luis did
while living in S. America.73, de gary-----Original Message-----From:
Topband <topband-bounces+kd9sv=comcast.net at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Fred
MoevesSent: Friday, May 8, 2020 2:04 PMTo: topband at contesting.comSubject:
Topband: 2 wire reversible BeverageGetting ready to put up a 2 wire
reversible Beverage and I have a few questions and looki
 ng for some ideas?Sorry I?m sure this subject has been beat to death? I did
some searches but didn?t find what I was looking for.My understanding is the
wires need to be in the horizontal plane to keep everything balanced.Also I
am assuming I can use THHN wire and twist it together and then put both
wires on one insulator.Or another way would put insulators on the side of
trees and separate them by a couple of inches?like ladder line.Just
wondering which way would be easiest to build and give the best
performance?To me it would seem to easier to put 2 wires together on just
one insulator.I will be installing this on the trees in a heavily wooded
area.It seems building the antenna with 2 wires and keeping them parallel
and same distance from the ground will not be easy.ThanksFred
KB4QZH_________________Searchable Archives:
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 09:44:58 +0200
From: "Gabriel - EA6VQ" <ea6vq_ml at dxmaps.com>
To: "'Fred Moeves'" <fmoeves at twc.com>,	<topband at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage
Message-ID: <74aa01d625d5$be724570$3b56d050$@dxmaps.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

Hi Fred,

Might be you can get some ideas from http://dxmaps.com/safontbeverage.html
and http://dxmaps.com/safontbeverage2.html

73. Gabriel ? EA6VQ

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+ea6vq_ml=dxmaps.com at contesting.com] En
nombre de Fred Moeves
Enviado el: viernes, 8 de mayo de 2020 20:04
Para: topband at contesting.com
Asunto: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage