Topband: Materials for Beverages?

Grant Saviers grants2 at pacbell.net
Tue Aug 3 18:46:41 EDT 2021


N7QT & I verified that black ring screw-in insulators are too conductive 
for one or two transmit radials on 160m.  Lot's of arcs and smoke.  I 
now use the yellow 4" long barb wire insulators screwed to trees to 
support 160m elevated Tx radials.

Black may not be a problem with Beverage field strengths.

Grant KZ1W

On 8/3/2021 11:16, Tim Duffy wrote:
> Two things concern me about black. UV and possible carbon used to color
> black - which may be conductive at RF frequencies
> 
> 73
> Tim K3LR
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+k3lr=k3lr.com at contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of Drew Vonada-Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:02 PM
> To: topband at contesting.com
> Subject: Topband: Materials for Beverages?
> 
> Gene,
> 
> I have used those and others in that series with only fair results.  They do
> break more often than I'd like.  I replace about 10% of them per year, which
> is acceptable given that they are cheap. But I have not found anything
> better.
> 
> FYI - I'd be happy to use black ones, but have never seen them.  My local
> farm store carries the exact same bright yellow ones you listed.  A link to
> a "preferred type" would be welcome.  I'm a bit of a birder and have not
> heard of any hummingbird death issues.  References?
> 
> 73,
> Drew K3PA
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> 
> Toda
> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 16:35:47 -0400
> From: Gene Smar <ersmar at verizon.net>
> To: topband at contesting.com
> Subject: Topband: Fwd: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Amazon recommends "Zareba
>          ITY-Z Standard..." and more
> Message-ID: <78ef5d0e-0d78-c118-0819-e5ccc2dd72f3 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> FYI.? Materials for Beverages?
> 
> 73 de
> Gene Smar? AD3F
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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