Topband: Remotes

[Jeff]

Jeff Reynolds

Hans Hjelmström wrote:
> Hams seems not to care,,,,there is not a single sound on qrg,BUT Hams seems to
> be happy to push a finger and let the computer make a so called qso for them.
Lets see ..... is your finger on the key ??
FT8 has opened up the world on my 1/4 acre city lot in the black hole of Nebraska.
When I work FT8, I'm FULLY engaged similar to MMTTY when RTTY was popular.
On FT8 I look for a station then try and find a open split frequency to respond 
and I'm
constantly monitoring TX frequency to make the QSO (similar to split on CW or SSB).
And it WORKS.
I think a lot of people just don't understand how FT8 works.  Sure, FT8 can be
abused just like remote stations & contests.

> Also the RIB business is as crazy. Having a station on a place,and operators all over
> the globe. Rather easy to handle a pile-up with a station in Pacific and sitting operating that in
> Finland.
If my actual signal originates from my QTH, is picked up at the DX location , & 
I hear
the signal from the DX location at my QTH, I don't care if a penguin on the 
south pole is
remotely generating the signal for the DX as the actual RF has legitimately made 
the
round trip. ( I believe IOTA has this wrong)

When I was BCB DXing as a kid and heard a commercial station playing a recorded 
program, did I not actually receive that signal ?
Of course not.  I received it & logged it.

> No We all have to do it our own way and let the other do it their way,BUT dxcc is gone
> for ever as an important award.
Agreed. DXCC has lost it's prestige, But like most on this group, my goal is to 
make
all my QSO's from my QTH with my TX & RX antennas for my personal satisfaction.
It would be an empty QSO to work needed DX from a remote station thousands of
miles from my QTH.

As others have noted, there is no way to stop the people making these empty QSO's
for either DXCC or more importantly in contests.

Just be true to yourself & enjoy our wonderful hobby.

NE0DX




>
> 73 Hans SM6CVX
>
>
>> 5 feb 2024 kl. 19:48 skrev David Olean <k1whs at metrocast.net>:
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> The horse has left the barn.  I have lost a bit of enthusiasm ever since Maine became a hotspot for 160M into Europe a number of years ago.  There are so many "killer" remote stations in the state now. There is no way I can really compete against it and it is very dis heartening to hear the W7s using a Maine station and not signing as portable. I have heard all the same stuff you were hearing this morning. There is really nothing you or I can do about it.  Some follow the rules, and some will bend them severely.  As for radio awards, W6PO commented years ago...."It is just like collecting matchbook covers". I set my own internal goals.
>>
>> Dave K1WHS
>>
>> On 2/5/2024 11:57 AM, Steve Harrison wrote:
>>> This growing practice of hiring a remote in another call area far from
>>> your own QTH, then working wild and exotic DX wile preventing deserving
>>> locals operating from their home stations from working same DX, is
>>> abominable and just plain unethical. I lost what respect I had for a
>>> couple people I heard work 9M2AX this morning when I heard them do that.
>>> I heard another guy do that last week that I've only just barely heard
>>> on 160 in the past across the country; he was at least two hours beyond
>>> his own sunrise, so obviously hiring a remote, probably that big one up
>>> near Carson City, Nevada, same station these two guys this morning were
>>> probably using. The week before last, there was another east coaster, at
>>> least 2-1/2 hours past his sunrise, who did the same thing at, most
>>> likely, the same station. I bet the owner of the station is advertising
>>> it as "WORK 9M2AX on 160 from here!!! Only $XXX for a half hour!!".
>>>
>>> I hope these guys are putting an asterisk on their 9M2 QSL cards to
>>> indicate they didn't work Ross from home; but I won't hold my breath
>>> that they do.
>>>
>>> Steve, K0XP
>>>
>>>
>>>
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