First I would like to thank the following for the input they shared with me; K1ZZ JIM K7FR GARY KA2GSL PAT N1SR K1KP TONY KE6BER/1 AL Summary suggested try the wire beam 2 to 1 and maybe a delta loop. Thanks again and cu in FD from northern AZ where I hope it will be a lot cooler then the 112 degs it is today in Phoenix. Remember it is a dry heat ! 73 Gary K7OX k7ox@usa.pipeline.com