Dave - Well, you could do what I did: Offer to pay them List Price. Then they give you a much better date. Of course, they don't deliver on that date either -- but the date IS improved. Paul NO8D -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/towertalkfaq.html Submissions: towertalk@contesting.com Administrative requests: towertalk-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: K7LXC@contesting.com Sponsored by Akorn Access, Inc & KM9P