Another possible way to find North would be rotate the antenna for maximum signal strength on VY1JA and lock those bolts down. 73 Jim KI7Y -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/towertalkfaq.html Submissions: towertalk@contesting.com Administrative requests: towertalk-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-towertalk@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com/km9p/search.htm