[TowerTalk] Top Ten Reasons
WD4K
Ttow1 at charter.net
Tue Apr 27 14:17:14 EDT 2004
Since some of you just won't follow the rules and I have to read your jabs
and digs aimed at our President....here are my top ten reasons NOT to
reelect Bush.
10. He did not give nuclear technology to North Korea
9. He did not give ICBM missle technology to China
8. He is not an adulterer
7. He does not consider Yasser Arafat a terrorist and one of his closest
friends.
6. He is not Americas first black President
5. He did not bomb an aspirin factory
4. He did not commit perjury
3. He does know what the meaning of is ..is
2. He does not live off of his wifes fortune
1!!!!! He does not own a blue semen stained dress.
If he had done all of these things, I would vote for him...America needs
another embarassment in the White House. Tommy WD4K
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1. FW: [TowerTalk] KT-34XA Dimensions (Joe - KC2TN)
2. Re: BPL: Presidential Backing (Alan Beagley)
3. Re: BPL: Presidential Backing (k2qmf at juno.com)
4. Anchor Bolts (K8fu at aol.com)
5. Re: BPL: Presidential Backing (pmills7 at houston.rr.com)
6. Re: BPL: Presidential Backing (J.P.)
7. Re: BPL: Presidential Backing (Allen (Marty) Martin)
8. RE: Using Belden 9913 on a crankup? (Dick Green WC1M)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:10:21 -0400
From: "Joe - KC2TN" <kc2tn at comcast.net>
Subject: FW: [TowerTalk] KT-34XA Dimensions
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
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Steve,
Attached (Stripped for the List) is a scan of the page I believe you're
looking for.
These dimensions are from my KT34XA which was purchased in 1983.
Director (D3) A=53", B=44", C=26", D=20"
Director (D2) 22.5" of 1/2"OD showing
Director (D1) A=53.5", B=43.5", C=27", D=20"
Front Driven A=43.75", B=43", C=26.75", D=18"
Rear Driven A=53", B=47.75", C=27.25", D=21"
Reflector A=61.5", B=47.5", C=27.75", D=18"
I've since updated my KT34XA to a KT36XA which are different dimensions
using machined shorting bars from M2 in place of the straps on the KLM
original models.
Joe - KC2TN
"If you're sure of everything,
and it still doesn't work,
one of the things you're sure of is wrong!"
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From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Steve London
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 3:40 PM
To: towertalk at contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] KT-34XA Dimensions
Hi !
I'm looking for the "final" set of A,B,C,D dimensions for the KT-34XA, when
it was still manufactured by KLM. Just want to make sure I have the most
recent dimensions before I put mine back up. I have applied the "Update Kit"
(dated 5/1/1991) to both of my XA's, if that makes a difference to the
dimensions.
I saw several requests for this info in the archives, but no follow-ups. It
would be great if someone could post the A,B,C,D dimensions to Towertalk, so
it would be in the archives forever more.
Thanks and 73,
Steve, N2IC/5
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:19:44 -0400
From: Alan Beagley <AB2OS at att.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] BPL: Presidential Backing
To: towertalk at contesting.com
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Yes, the technical standards need to be changed to allow BPL: require
all power lines to be shielded.
Alan AB2OS
On 04/27/04 09:06 am Eric Rosenberg put fingers to keyboard and launched
the following message into cyberspace:
> From the President's speech:
<snip>
> . . . There needs to be technical
> standards to make possible new broadband technologies, such as the use
> of high-speed communication directly over power lines. Power lines were
> for electricity; power lines can be used for broadband technology. So
> the technical standards need to be changed to encourage that.
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:57:14 -0400
From: k2qmf at juno.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] BPL: Presidential Backing
To: AB2OS at att.net
Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
Message-ID: <20040427.125720.-994561.0.K2QMF at juno.com>
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Another good reason to NOT vote for Bush............
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:19:44 -0400 Alan Beagley <AB2OS at att.net> writes:
> Yes, the technical standards need to be changed to allow BPL: require
>
> all power lines to be shielded.
>
> Alan AB2OS
>
>
> On 04/27/04 09:06 am Eric Rosenberg put fingers to keyboard and
> launched
> the following message into cyberspace:
>
> > From the President's speech:
>
> <snip>
>
> > . . . There needs to be technical
> > standards to make possible new broadband technologies, such as the
> use
> > of high-speed communication directly over power lines. Power lines
> were
> > for electricity; power lines can be used for broadband technology.
> So
> > the technical standards need to be changed to encourage that.
> _______________________________________________
>
> See: http://www.mscomputer.com for "Self Supporting Towers",
> "Wireless Weather Stations", and lot's more. Call Toll Free,
> 1-800-333-9041 with any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:04:53 EDT
From: K8fu at aol.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Anchor Bolts
To: towertalk at contesting.com
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Can anyone give a friendly Frog an idea where he could find some "24"-"27"
"J" hook anchor bolts for concrete ??
Lowes and Home Depot are no help. Would a local purveyor of concrete be
knowledgeable in this area ?? Mny Tnx.....................
Froggy K8FU
Charlies Whiskey.....When You Care Enough To Send the Very Best....
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:10:23 -0500
From: <pmills7 at houston.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] BPL: Presidential Backing
To: <k2qmf at juno.com>, <AB2OS at att.net>
Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
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And, since you are so expert, please tell us what Mr. Kerry's position
is.....
----- Original Message -----
From: <k2qmf at juno.com>
To: <AB2OS at att.net>
Cc: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] BPL: Presidential Backing
>
> Another good reason to NOT vote for Bush............
>
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:19:44 -0400 Alan Beagley <AB2OS at att.net> writes:
>> Yes, the technical standards need to be changed to allow BPL: require
>>
>> all power lines to be shielded.
>>
>> Alan AB2OS
>>
>>
>> On 04/27/04 09:06 am Eric Rosenberg put fingers to keyboard and
>> launched
>> the following message into cyberspace:
>>
>> > From the President's speech:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> > . . . There needs to be technical
>> > standards to make possible new broadband technologies, such as the
>> use
>> > of high-speed communication directly over power lines. Power lines
>> were
>> > for electricity; power lines can be used for broadband technology.
>> So
>> > the technical standards need to be changed to encourage that.
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> See: http://www.mscomputer.com for "Self Supporting Towers",
>> "Wireless Weather Stations", and lot's more. Call Toll Free,
>> 1-800-333-9041 with any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:13:06 -0700
From: "J.P." <jp at ezoom.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] BPL: Presidential Backing
To: <pmills7 at houston.rr.com>, <k2qmf at juno.com>, <AB2OS at att.net>
Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
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Blah blah blah. Please keep the political rhetoric off the reflector.
Nothing good will come of discussing it or reelecting Bush ;)
----- Original Message -----
From: <pmills7 at houston.rr.com>
To: <k2qmf at juno.com>; <AB2OS at att.net>
Cc: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] BPL: Presidential Backing
> And, since you are so expert, please tell us what Mr. Kerry's position
> is.....
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <k2qmf at juno.com>
> To: <AB2OS at att.net>
> Cc: <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] BPL: Presidential Backing
>
>
> >
> > Another good reason to NOT vote for Bush............
> >
> > On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:19:44 -0400 Alan Beagley <AB2OS at att.net> writes:
> >> Yes, the technical standards need to be changed to allow BPL: require
> >>
> >> all power lines to be shielded.
> >>
> >> Alan AB2OS
> >>
> >>
> >> On 04/27/04 09:06 am Eric Rosenberg put fingers to keyboard and
> >> launched
> >> the following message into cyberspace:
> >>
> >> > From the President's speech:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> > . . . There needs to be technical
> >> > standards to make possible new broadband technologies, such as the
> >> use
> >> > of high-speed communication directly over power lines. Power lines
> >> were
> >> > for electricity; power lines can be used for broadband technology.
> >> So
> >> > the technical standards need to be changed to encourage that.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> See: http://www.mscomputer.com for "Self Supporting Towers",
> >> "Wireless Weather Stations", and lot's more. Call Toll Free,
> >> 1-800-333-9041 with any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> >>
> >
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> > any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> >
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:28:46 -0800
From: "Allen (Marty) Martin" <w7apm at mtaonline.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] BPL: Presidential Backing
To: "J.P." <jp at ezoom.net>, <pmills7 at houston.rr.com>, <k2qmf at juno.com>,
<AB2OS at att.net>
Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
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I am sure that all know that political subjects are taboo on the reflector.
I also see that the usual type sees themselves above the rules.
----- Original Message -----
From: "J.P." <jp at ezoom.net>
To: <pmills7 at houston.rr.com>; <k2qmf at juno.com>; <AB2OS at att.net>
Cc: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] BPL: Presidential Backing
> Blah blah blah. Please keep the political rhetoric off the reflector.
> Nothing good will come of discussing it or reelecting Bush ;)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <pmills7 at houston.rr.com>
> To: <k2qmf at juno.com>; <AB2OS at att.net>
> Cc: <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] BPL: Presidential Backing
>
>
> > And, since you are so expert, please tell us what Mr. Kerry's position
> > is.....
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <k2qmf at juno.com>
> > To: <AB2OS at att.net>
> > Cc: <towertalk at contesting.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] BPL: Presidential Backing
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Another good reason to NOT vote for Bush............
> > >
> > > On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:19:44 -0400 Alan Beagley <AB2OS at att.net>
writes:
> > >> Yes, the technical standards need to be changed to allow BPL: require
> > >>
> > >> all power lines to be shielded.
> > >>
> > >> Alan AB2OS
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 04/27/04 09:06 am Eric Rosenberg put fingers to keyboard and
> > >> launched
> > >> the following message into cyberspace:
> > >>
> > >> > From the President's speech:
> > >>
> > >> <snip>
> > >>
> > >> > . . . There needs to be technical
> > >> > standards to make possible new broadband technologies, such as the
> > >> use
> > >> > of high-speed communication directly over power lines. Power lines
> > >> were
> > >> > for electricity; power lines can be used for broadband technology.
> > >> So
> > >> > the technical standards need to be changed to encourage that.
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >>
> > >> See: http://www.mscomputer.com for "Self Supporting Towers",
> > >> "Wireless Weather Stations", and lot's more. Call Toll Free,
> > >> 1-800-333-9041 with any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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"Wireless
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with
> > > any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> > >
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> >
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> >
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any
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> >
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:33:09 -0400
From: "Dick Green WC1M" <wc1m at msn.com>
Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Using Belden 9913 on a crankup?
To: "'Tower (K8RI)'" <tower at rogerhalstead.com>,
<coulter at bellsouth.net>, <towertalk at contesting.com>
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I would not use 9913 on a crankup tower. It's way too stiff and will bow
out. Over time, the constant bending will cause the center conductor to
migrate, affecting the cable impedance. I initially used the much more
flexible Times Microwave LMR-400UF, but even that was too stiff. I had a
near-disaster when the LMR bowed out, swung around the tower and got caught
on the motor housing (I have a remote-controlled tower and can't see it from
the control position.) Ever since, I've used RG-213 with no problems. That
should be fine on a 50-foot tower. However, some comparisons between RG-213
and Buryflex revealed that the latter is actually more flexible. It also has
much lower loss. You can get Buryflex from Radioware
(http://www.radio-ware.com/).
73, Dick WC1M
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tower (K8RI) [mailto:tower at rogerhalstead.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:11 PM
> To: coulter at bellsouth.net; towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Using Belden 9913 on a crankup?
>
>
> I used 9913 for years and then gave it all away after one
> lightening strike blew off the water proofing. I figured it
> just wasn't worth the risk.
>
> OTOH 9913 is not a good cable to use where flexing is
> encountered. The center conductor can migrate off center and
> it needs to make wide radius bends if long life is expected.
>
> I much prefer LMR 400 to 9913. It's slightly cheaper, or has
> been. It's one or two tenths of a db less loss and fits the
> same connectors. Both fit PL259s. LMR 400 is more rugged and
> can make relatively short radius bends. Much shorter bends
> with reliability than 9913. I believe (without taking the
> time to look it up) that LMR-400 extraflex has about the same
> loss as regular 9913, but is more expensive.
>
> I used 9913 for years without a problem, or at least I never
> noticed any. I liked it, but finding water running out of my
> rig after the lightening blew off all the water proofing was
> enough to cause a rapid switch to something better. I'd
> probably still be using it had that not happened.
>
> You'll also most likely find hams who have used the stuff in
> flexing situations with no problems (there are usually
> exceptions to most any set of
> circumstances)
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Roger Halstead (K8RI, EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
> N833R, World's Oldest Debonair (S# CD-2)
> www.rogerhalstead.com
>
>
> > Could somebody tell me if Belden 9913(not 9913 flex)is usable on a
> > crankup tower. What I am interested in, is if it is bendable enough
> > when the tower
> is
> > cranked down or will it bow out too much? Should I go to a more
> > flexable
> cable
> > for the run up the tower, or is it workable? This is for a 51 ft.
> > crankup. Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Todd
> > N4JRZ
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > See: http://www.mscomputer.com for "Self Supporting Towers",
> > "Wireless
> Weather Stations", and lot's more. Call Toll Free,
> 1-800-333-9041 with any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> >
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> >
>
>
>
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