[TowerTalk] Worm gear winch

[joegps]

Hi All,
What you need to use is a Milwaukee hole hog, this is
a two speed unit 300/1200 RPM right angle drill, an
alternative to that is to make a lever about 3'long. I
have used a worm gear to tilt over my 72' tri-ex for
about 18 years, used to use an old low speed heavy
duty  drill motor and recently upgraded to the hole
hog.
Joe K1NCO
PS make sure that the towe is nested befors tilting
over.
Message: 1
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:24:10 -0700
From: "Al Williams" <alwilliams at olywa.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Winch Criteria [Was: Winch
for LM 354]
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000801c5a5d5$e89df410$25daadd8 at PAPASDELL>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <k2qmf at juno.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 1:53 PM
> Gee that KW3000 looks very interesting.
> The worm gear ratio is so high that you could
> probably connect a drill to it and the drill would
> turn the winch!!
> The original winch on the LM-354 is a K-1550.
> About 5 to 1 ratio.  The K-2550 is about 15 to 1.
> the KW-3000 is about 50 to 1.  It would probably
> take forever to crank by hand but by drill!!
> I may get one of those KW-3000's for my LM-354!!
> Also, a worm gear will not turn either way until you
> turn it.  No need for a break!!
>
About 3 years ago when I was looking for a bigger
replacement for the 
Fulton 
k1550 winch to be used with the LM470 motorized
crankup, I called 
Fulton for 
their advice.  I was thinking about one their worm
gear drive winches 
but 
the sales rep (?) at Fulton recommended against worm
gear drive winches 
and 
instead recommended the k2550 which I purchased.

As I recall this sales rep said the worm gear drive
winch wouldn't hold 
(my 
words).  Unfortunately I didn't pursue this and have
often wondered if 
the 
sales rep was correct.  Especially after a recent
incident with the 
k2550 
being in a "free spool" mode when I began lowering the
tower.  I 
noticed 
that the winch handle was turning by itself because of
the load (yet 
nearly 
vertical).  Fortunately it was turning slowly so I
grabbed the handle 
to 
stop it.

It appears that the k2550 brake mechanism has
something in it that 
requires 
"setting" to be sure that the brake is activated.  I
would
sure appreciate if Jim Lux or another expert will
describe how brake 
winches 
work.

k7puc