Hi all, It's not commercial... it just took me 12 months to build the Antenna and I'm proud of it as you do get..laugh and I wanted to thank you all for the advice.. That's it..nothing more - nothing less.. Have a great Chrissy.. Sean Neylon Sean P. Neylon VK2SN QF56oc Cell Phone: ++ 61 413 747 276 web: www.vk2sn.com email: sean at vk2sn.com