I have a 2 element 40 at 80 feet and I can't even hear VR, 9M, HL, VU, XZ, etc. from my QTH in the UP of Michigan. When the California stations spot these areas, it's too late for my location. Even if I am up with the birds, I still have no propagation to that part of the world. You KA and MO guys have it made! Tom W8JWN/V31TR