If any of you out there have a North Saf-T Climb Ladder Fall Prevention system you probably want to read this: http://www.comtrainusa.com/Warnings/Safe%20Climb%20Warning.htm -- Justin S. Wilson <j2sw at mtin.net> CCNA - A+ - N+ - ACSA - COMTRAIN Access - WISP Consulting - Tower Climbing Web: http://www.mtin.net Web: http://www.jwilson.ws