[TowerTalk] 40-m. 4-Square vs. 40-m. Yagi

[Gedas]

What Jerry said below is exactly what I have seen between my CC 2-elem @85' 
and a full sized 1/4-wave ground mounted reference vertical.  Never less 
than 2 SU in favor of the yagi out in DX land.

73, W8BYA
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "K4SAV" <RadioIR at charter.net>
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 40-m. 4-Square vs. 40-m. Yagi


> EZNEC says that the shorty-40 at 90 feet should kill the vertical and
> the four square.  The only angle where the four square has more gain is
> at 41 to 56 degrees elevation where the shorty-40 has a null.  You
> should be seeing something like 12 dB difference between your vertical
> and the shorty-40 for DX signals, in favor of the shorty-40.  Sounds
> like you have something wrong with your shorty-40.
>
> Jerry, K4SAV
>
> RLVZ at aol.com wrote:
>
>>Hi Guys,
>>
>>HNY!
>>
>>I'm not impressed with the performance of a 2-el. Forty-Shorty at 90' on 
>>DX
>>qso's.  While it's great for 1,000 mi. or less... my single 1/4 wave 
>>vertical
>>is just as good on the average DX contact.  (since the Shorty-Forty at 90'
>>doesn't have any gain at low radiation angles... I guessed I should have 
>>expected
>>as much)
>>
>>Question: Considering flat terrain, average ground conductivity, and a
>>reasonable radial system: do you predict that a 40-m. 4-Square would 
>>outperform the
>>90' Shorty-Forty by 3-5dB on the average DX qso?
>>
>>73.
>>Dick- K9OM
>>
>>
>>
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