[TowerTalk] Spanish-language conversation on baluns, antennas

[van wd8aam]

In the regard for the last reply, yes, most moderators have 
several/sometimes many,
reflectors they manage.  Time matters, we are not ALL retired.

On my 9 reflectors I manage, if any non-English language is used, it gets the
poster removed from the group immediately, explanations will come later.

In regard to Joe Subich remarks below, a reflector is designed to 
SHARE information.
Therefore a reply to originator setting in MY opinion defeats the purpose of
information sharing.  If a message goes out to the group inadvertantly,
at least the group has the benefit of not only sharing, but laughing at
the sender for forgetting this small fact of posting.  Sometimes it gets
downright embarrassing (I do it myself) but that's the price paid for 
information
sharing.

Only in a specific type of group would I only consider replying to just the
message originator.

I think Steve's outburst was in frustration, and I can understand how 
it happened.
Not pretty, and not the norm on his part, I'm sure.

My two cents...
van
wd8aam

At 20:27 4/26/2010, you wrote:
>There was a case several years ago where an op was running a phone patch and
>the conversation switched from English to some other language. The op
>allowed the call to go on. It later turned out that an illegal activity was
>being discussed on this phone patch. I know this is somewhat different but I
>can see the concern that a moderator would have and I am sure that he
>doesn't have time to be translating multiple messages posted to this board.
>
>73 Mark N1UK
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists at subich.com>
>To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
>Sent: Monday, 26 April, 2010 3:22 PM
>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Spanish-language conversation on baluns, antennas
>
>
> >
> > 1) If this list hadn't take the backward step of making the only
> >    way one can reply to a message "reply to list," the private
> >    and non-English postings would not have to go to the entire
> >    list.
> >
> > 2) it is ridiculously simple to copy/paste a non-English e-mail
> >    into the "translate" box at http://www.google.com/language_tools
> >    if the moderator can not read a language and needs to determine
> >    whether the posting is "appropriate."
> >
> >    Google does a more than adequate job of translation on many
> >    languages - even some that are rarely encountered by most
> >    English speakers.  I make regular use of the language tools,
> >    particularly for customer support.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> >    ... Joe, W4TV
> >
> > On 4/26/2010 1:11 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> How exactly do you or KT9OM expect Steve to moderate the list (and
> >> history has shown that he does indeed need to monitor the list for
> >> relevancy and decorum) if postings are in Spanish (or any other
> >> language)?  And I think it's pretty clear from his "shouted" posting
> >> that he had already previously asked for it to stop.  Everyone gets
> >> frustrated when they get ignored.
> >>
> >> So yes, it is pretty much an English only list, but you know darn well
> >> that it isn't restricted in any other way to USA only.  This issue has
> >> nothing at all to do with whether or not the users of the list speak one
> >> language or half a dozen.  The issue is whether it is fair to expect
> >> Steve to speak enough different languages to be able to monitor the
> >> list, or to run everything through an online translator.  Clearly it
> >> isn't.
> >>
> >> Dave   AB7E
> >>
> >>
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