[TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 92, Issue 43

Sat Aug 14 18:23:33 PDT 2010

We lawyers have made everyone paranoid! I'm sure they put lots of fudge factor in their current ratings.

                                Dale    K4ROZ

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: gorilla hooks (David Gilbert)
   2. Re: OTQ (Its from Onion)
   3. Re: gorilla hooks (K1TTT)
   4. Re: gorilla hooks (K1TTT)
   5. Re: Fall Harness-My Choice (Glenn Thorne)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:12:01 -0700
From: David Gilbert <xdavid at cis-broadband.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] gorilla hooks
To: towertalk at contesting.com
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I posted the link for the ones I use in my first message, but here it is again ...

*http://tinyurl.com/25dns9a

*I believe that Champion Radio carries a large gorilla hook as well,
except made from steel.   I like the lighter weight of the aluminum
alloy ones, but other may have different preferences.

73,
Dave   AB7E
*
*

On 8/14/2010 9:49 AM, Cqtestk4xs at aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 8/14/2010 8:44:34 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
> xdavid at cis-broadband.com writes:
>
> The  gorilla hooks release and open all in the same hand gripping
> motion, so it  is not appreciably slower than simply climbing or  descending.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~~~~~~
> ~
>
> Where can one purchase the "gorilla hooks".
>
> Bill KH7XS/K4XS
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:11:58 -0500
From: "Its from Onion" <aredandgold at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] OTQ
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
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Dale,

I made a bet that this thread would revert to a house bracket tower wind load question.

Its not really the people fault that only read the Rohn manual and never have climbed a tower.
They don't understand how nervous the company bean counters get when someone sues them.
The wind blows and someone gets sued.
That they don't have Rohn specs dated 25 years ago that spec 25 like 45 is specked today.

As far as 'them' telling me I should be 'worrying' about adding a extra 6 sq. ft of wind load, I don't.

Why, you ask?

The 3el 40m was so heavy when we tramed the antenna up it bent the DOM mast! What did we do?
Replace the tower?  Replace the mast pole?

Nope, we rotated the mast, hooked the truck back up to the pole and pulled it back straight!

I GUARANTEE YOU that we put more stress on that tower that ANY hurricane wind could.

So yes Dale I think you had a great set-up and like yours, mine don't creek, move or sway.

Take care and
73,
Lee
KE4VYN

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 04:47:23 +0000
From: "Dale M. Schwartz" <dale at immlawfirm.com<mailto:dale at immlawfirm.com>>
Subject: [TowerTalk] OTQ
To: "towertalk at contesting.com<mailto:towertalk at contesting.com>" <towertalk at contesting.com<mailto:towertalk at contesting.com>>
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Lee: I had an 80' Rohn 25 tower with two house brackets bolted into a 40' high chimney with NO guy wires it was up for 30 years in an area that sometimes gets pretty strong wind gusts here in Atlanta. It never even vibrated.  I swear to you that in 30 years we never had to climb the tower once-- not for the 4 el tribander; not for the rotor (never ever lubricated); not for the coax or connectors. Maybe just lucky???
         Dale.   K4ROZ

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:16:19 +0000
From: "K1TTT" <K1TTT at ARRL.NET>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] gorilla hooks
To: <TOWERTALK at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <86D6518FAB22481FBC6F229C9FC39C4D at k1tttibm>
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The 'gorilla' hooks I have are just spring action hooks, I would be very surprised if they are rated for live loads.

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cqtestk4xs at aol.com [mailto:Cqtestk4xs at aol.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 16:49
> To: TOWERTALK at contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] gorilla hooks
>
> In a message dated 8/14/2010 8:44:34 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
> xdavid at cis-broadband.com writes:
>
> The  gorilla hooks release and open all in the same hand gripping
> motion, so it  is not appreciably slower than simply climbing or  descending.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~~~~
> ~~
> ~
>
> Where can one purchase the "gorilla hooks".
>
> Bill KH7XS/K4XS
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> TowerTalk mailing list
> TowerTalk at contesting.com
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:30:22 +0000
From: "K1TTT" <K1TTT at ARRL.NET>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] gorilla hooks
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <AE622CFD035048AABD6A7805E1B36D16 at k1tttibm>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

That is not what I have seen advertised as 'gorilla hooks', those are obviously designed for live loads.

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Gilbert [mailto:xdavid at cis-broadband.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 17:12
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] gorilla hooks
>
>
> I posted the link for the ones I use in my first message, but here it
> is again ...
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/25dns9a
>
> *I believe that Champion Radio carries a large gorilla hook as well,
> except made from steel.   I like the lighter weight of the aluminum
> alloy ones, but other may have different preferences.
>
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
> *
> *
>
> On 8/14/2010 9:49 AM, Cqtestk4xs at aol.com wrote:
> > In a message dated 8/14/2010 8:44:34 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
> > xdavid at cis-broadband.com writes:
> >
> > The  gorilla hooks release and open all in the same hand gripping
> motion,
> > so it  is not appreciably slower than simply climbing or  descending.
> >
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~~~~
> ~~
> > ~
> >
> > Where can one purchase the "gorilla hooks".
> >
> > Bill KH7XS/K4XS
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TowerTalk mailing list
> > TowerTalk at contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:54:55 -0500
From: "Glenn Thorne" <gathorne at traer.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fall Harness-My Choice
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <9C0663C85E654DEF88E764AE5AB75DC8 at fmggt1>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
        reply-type=original

I have the cable on my HD-80 AN Wireless tower.  Until I got the cable up I used two straps like Dave.  One was, and still is, my fall arrest lanyard.
The cable sleeve makes it easy to stay safe when ascending and descending.
Much quicker than using the two straps.

73, Glenn/KD0Q

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Gilbert" <xdavid at cis-broadband.com>
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fall Harness-My Choice

>
> I have an AN Wireless HD-70 freestanding tower with the foot pegs ...
> slippery enough to require caution when wet, but not treacherous.  I
> climb with a full body harness with two relatively short safety straps,
> neither of which are fall arrest lanyards.  Each safety strap has a
> self-locking gorilla hook on the end (required because of the large
> steel cross braces on the tower), and one or the other hook is ALWAYS
> attached to a cross brace as I climb.  I even have a third strap and
> gorilla hook coming from a separate belt around my waist that I affix to
> the tower while I am working.
>
<snip>.
>
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
>
> On 8/13/2010 4:34 PM, Jim Thomson wrote:
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:09:25 -0500
>> From: "Noid Wilson-NM5I "<noid1037 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Fall Harness-My Choice
>> Dear Group,
>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> ##  How many folks on here run the 3/8"  winch cable  from top
>> to bottom of the tower,  and use the positive locking device, hooked to
>> your
>> climbing gear of choice?    IE: if you slip, get stung by a wasp, get
>> dizzy from
>> the heat, etc, what's  stopping you from falling 100'....aside from the
>> next set of
>> guy wires below you ?   I see the Trylon version of this device uses a
>> shock absorber
>> at the top of the tower.  Some versions use a 3/8"  cable..and some
>> versions use a
>> square tubing rail, running the entire height of the tower.
>>
>> Later... Jim   VE7RF
>>

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