[TowerTalk] HDBX-48 figures for 90 mph zone

Mike Cizek mikew3mc at gmail.com
Wed Dec 7 08:22:21 PST 2011


Bottom line.....the manufacturer wants $1400 (one thousand four hundred
dollars) to provide the drawings.  I have already told the guy we need to
look at other options; all of which were more expensive, until we figured in
the cost of getting proper drawings from Shelby.  

Thanks to everyone for the replies; we can close this thread and move on to
something useful and more fun now :-)

73,

Mike W3MC 

-----Original Message-----
From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gene Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, 07 December, 2011 10:56
To: Jim Thomson; towertalk at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HDBX-48 figures for 90 mph zone


Bottom line, if the manufacturer can't, or won't, give you 90 mph data or at
least the projected tower area and, taking into account the materials used,
the maximum allowable restraining moment, then they probably know nothing
about things like section modulus and moment of inertia and never did the
calculations themselves, in which case I would have second thoughts about
buying their tower.
Gene / W2LU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom at telus.net>
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 7:24 AM
Subject: [TowerTalk] HDBX-48 figures for 90 mph zone


> Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 00:19:21 -0500
> From: K8RI <K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd:  HDBX-48 figures for 90 mph zone
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Message-ID: <4EDEF759.7040005 at tm.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 12/6/2011 11:13 PM, HansLG at aol.com wrote:
>>
>> In a message dated 12/6/2011 4:43:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> w2lu at rochester.rr.com writes:
>>
>> As I  recall wind pressure "on a flat surface" at 70 mph is 20.6 lbs/sq
>> ft.,
>> so  if the  tower is rated for
>> 18 sq ft at 70 mph, would it be too much of  a stretch to say to the 
>> zoning
>> board that since wind pressure at 90 mph is  34 lbs/sq ft, by simple 
>> math,
>> the tower should be good for 10.9 sq ft at  90 mph ?
>> Gene / W2LU
>
> Regardless of wind area isn't there a boom length limitation on both the
> BX and HDBX series?
>
> 73
>
> Roger (K8RI)
>
> ##  yes, I think they reduced it to just 10' years ago..and sales 
> plummeted.
> Just fudge the ant wind load a bit, and perhaps 'take out' one section on 
> paper.
> Then when u install it, add the extra section back in.   IF you ever did 
> hit it with
> a 90 mph wind, and a big ant, ur gonna be in for an eye opener.   That 
> thing about
> 70 mph = 20.6 sq feet.  That's from 1976. 222- REV-D.   It's now REV G !
> A Trylon T-500, 72' tall..is good for 22 sq feet @ 70mph....but only 6 sq 
> feet
> at 100 mph.  The tower itself will eat up all the windload.   Toss in any 
> ice,and
> you can kiss it goodbye.   I wonder if the factory will even give you a 
> windload
> rating for 90 mph ?
>
> Jim  VE7RF
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