[TowerTalk] HDBX-48 figures for 90 mph zone

[Richard Solomon]

IIRC, those towers were specifically designed for use with short boom
Cubical Quads.
Yagis presented way too much torque on the tower.

Use it for the bottom of a 160 Meter vertical !!

73, Dick, W1KSZ

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Mike Cizek <mikew3mc at gmail.com> wrote:
> Bottom line.....the manufacturer wants $1400 (one thousand four hundred
> dollars) to provide the drawings.  I have already told the guy we need to
> look at other options; all of which were more expensive, until we figured in
> the cost of getting proper drawings from Shelby.
>
> Thanks to everyone for the replies; we can close this thread and move on to
> something useful and more fun now :-)
>
> 73,
>
> Mike W3MC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gene Fuller
> Sent: Wednesday, 07 December, 2011 10:56
> To: Jim Thomson; towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HDBX-48 figures for 90 mph zone
>
>
> Bottom line, if the manufacturer can't, or won't, give you 90 mph data or at
> least the projected tower area and, taking into account the materials used,
> the maximum allowable restraining moment, then they probably know nothing
> about things like section modulus and moment of inertia and never did the
> calculations themselves, in which case I would have second thoughts about
> buying their tower.
> Gene / W2LU
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom at telus.net>
> To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 7:24 AM
> Subject: [TowerTalk] HDBX-48 figures for 90 mph zone
>
>
>> Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 00:19:21 -0500
>> From: K8RI <K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd:  HDBX-48 figures for 90 mph zone
>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Message-ID: <4EDEF759.7040005 at tm.net>
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>> On 12/6/2011 11:13 PM, HansLG at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> In a message dated 12/6/2011 4:43:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> w2lu at rochester.rr.com writes:
>>>
>>> As I  recall wind pressure "on a flat surface" at 70 mph is 20.6 lbs/sq
>>> ft.,
>>> so  if the  tower is rated for
>>> 18 sq ft at 70 mph, would it be too much of  a stretch to say to the
>>> zoning
>>> board that since wind pressure at 90 mph is  34 lbs/sq ft, by simple
>>> math,
>>> the tower should be good for 10.9 sq ft at  90 mph ?
>>> Gene / W2LU
>>
>> Regardless of wind area isn't there a boom length limitation on both the
>> BX and HDBX series?
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Roger (K8RI)
>>
>> ##  yes, I think they reduced it to just 10' years ago..and sales
>> plummeted.
>> Just fudge the ant wind load a bit, and perhaps 'take out' one section on
>> paper.
>> Then when u install it, add the extra section back in.   IF you ever did
>> hit it with
>> a 90 mph wind, and a big ant, ur gonna be in for an eye opener.   That
>> thing about
>> 70 mph = 20.6 sq feet.  That's from 1976. 222- REV-D.   It's now REV G !
>> A Trylon T-500, 72' tall..is good for 22 sq feet @ 70mph....but only 6 sq
>> feet
>> at 100 mph.  The tower itself will eat up all the windload.   Toss in any
>> ice,and
>> you can kiss it goodbye.   I wonder if the factory will even give you a
>> windload
>> rating for 90 mph ?
>>
>> Jim  VE7RF
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