[TowerTalk] Remote Ham Radio

[K8RI]

On 8/2/2013 8:34 PM, Al Kozakiewicz wrote:
> They're not selling communications, they're selling access to stations.  What you communicate is under your control and is subject to 97.113.  Selling or renting equipment or access to the same is not communications.
>
> As a reduction ad absurdum, if renting a station is illegal under 97.113 so must be selling one.

Not at all.

When transmitting on a rented station, "the station" with specified 
location is under the license of the owner. You can use your call, but 
the station is licensed to him, thus "operating" he is letting you 
operate his station for money.

"IF" it is done in such a manner that the station is listed with the FCC 
as your station, then it'd be legal, hence "remote stations"

This is entirely different than selling your station.  I'd assume you 
could sell a station including the site and the new owner could operate 
from that site

It's seems as if any DX or contesting from anothers station would have 
to list the stations license which is specific to the site.  If you 
visit a station and use your call, it's still his station.

I have a feeling, contest and awards committees will take this into 
consideration.

  It would be interesting as to how they view it.

73

Roger (K8RI)
>
> Al
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gene Smar
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 8:19 PM
> To: Mike; 'K8RI'; towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Remote Ham Radio
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> TT:
>
>       When a local posting on this showed up here a few months ago, I protested that this service can't be legal.  See below, especially
> 97.113(a)(2) and (3):
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> "Sec. 97.113 Prohibited transmissions
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> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "(a) No amateur station shall transmit:
> "(1) Communications specifically prohibited elsewhere in this part;
>
> "(2) Communications for hire or for material compensation, direct or indirect, paid or promised, except as otherwise provided in these rules;
>
> "(3) Communications in which the station licensee or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on behalf of an employer, with the following exceptions: ...."
>
>       The exceptions are concerned with for-sale adverts on the air if this isn't the operator's line of work and a few others.
>
>       IMHO, the station licensee leasing time on his super station for this purpose is in violation of this Section of the Rules.  But that's just me.
>
> 73 de
>
> Gene Smar  AD3F
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike" <noddy1211 at comcast.net>
> To: "'K8RI'" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net>; <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Remote Ham Radio
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>> Nope this is the USA monetary gain Trumps ethics:-)
>>
>> Seriously I think that rule applies to advertising.
>>
>> Mike/K6BR
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>> K8RI
>> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 4:22 PM
>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Remote Ham Radio
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>> On 8/2/2013 3:39 PM, Jim W7RY wrote:
>>> At very impressive (high) prices!
>>> 73
>>> Jim W7RY
>>
>> Isn't it against the rules to make money or receive reimbursement for the
>> use of an Amateur Radio station?
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Roger (K8RI)
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: K7LXC at aol.com Sent: Friday, August
>>> 02,
>>> 2013 9:39 AM To: towertalk at contesting.com Subject: [TowerTalk] Remote
>>> Ham Radio Greetings, TowerTalkians --
>>>
>>>      I'm not sure how I missed it but here is a new  service for hams.
>>> It's a time-share of ham radio stations of some clout. Check  it out
>>> at http://www.remotehamradio.com/.
>>>      Some impressive stations are available for your  use.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Steve    K7LXC
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