[TowerTalk] Tic Ring--de VE1JF

Wed Sep 11 19:44:50 EDT 2013

Hi Dave--

My setup:
http://www.texasantennas.com/index.php?option=com_fwgallery&view=gallery&id=3:ve1jf&Itemid=268

I'm taking the tower down from 3 yagis to one EME array with K0XG el-az. In 
doing so, I will have two 1032 TIC Rings, two potentiometer-type TIC 
controllers, and no less than seven motors (gear-type: one master, two 
slaves; hook-and-eye type: two masters, two slaves--all in various states, 
some TBD, probably several will require rebuilding).

Also will be freeing one K7NV medium-sized prop pitch with TB4, 10' 
chrome-molly mast, Green Heron controller. Recently started freewheeling and 
yanked out the leads on the superboom C51XRNjf.

Within the next month I expect to have all this on the ground, plus the top 
70' of my EHD Trylon 18AWS tower (40 will remain for the EME array) and 9ea 
Phyllistran guys, all heavier than equiv to 1/4" EHS. The mechanical 
conditions of the TIC motors and the reasons for K7NV prop-pitch 
free-wheeling can then be evaluated.

Also the superboom C51XRNjf, the boom of which is rated 180mph and was based 
by F12 on a boom they designed for an 80M beam and suitable for a wowser 80, 
80/40, or whatever. If I split it up into three components, I have the 
elements for a C31XRH and a 240N. Also, on the ground, I have the 
predecessor EF-140H elements from my two original C51XR-H yagis.

If you know of some possible interest in these items, let me know.

73,

Jim VE1JF

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Robbins" <k1ttt at arrl.net>
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tic Ring

> Parts... boy do I have parts... several generations of tic motors for 1022
> and 1122 rings, and one 'slightly' damaged whole ring.
>
> Please only look at these if you have a real interest, they are 6mb each 
> so
> you can see all the detail, but will take a bit to download from my 
> server.
> http://www.k1ttt.net/images/2013ticringparts_1.JPG
> http://www.k1ttt.net/images/2013ticringparts_2.JPG
>
> The first one shows a bunch of motors that may or may not work.  At least
> the one that is in pieces from an autopsy, I think one of the others was
> also taken apart and kind of put back together... these have all been
> removed from service for one reason or another, mostly for freezing up in
> the winter probably because of water ingress.  I also have a set of 3
> bearings like the one shown and a pile of the boom cradle top saddles.
>
> The second picture is an 1122 ring that was damaged when the 40m4lldd on 
> it
> broke in half in an ice storm.  The welds on the side supports to the 
> cradle
> are broken and I think the ring is a bit warped, but it was still 
> basically
> working when I took it down... two of the motors were probably from this 
> one
> so may still be in reasonable working condition.  This also has the boom
> truss assembly.
>
> I also have one spare tic digital control box, this was removed from 
> service
> working just fine when the broke ring was replaced.
>
> I could probably ship the motors and control box, but would prefer not to
> ship the ring.  Make an offer and I'll add in actual shipping cost if you
> can't pick them up.
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
> web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: john at kk9a.com [mailto:john at kk9a.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:27
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Cc: petehelder at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tic Ring
>
> Last year I discovered couple of stripped gears on a TIC Ring Rotator 
> motor
> turning a very large 20m beam. I had the same problem, TIC had no
> replacement parts, specifications or help in obtaining a replacement. I 
> have
> a number of TIC motors so I was quite unhappy to hear this. Also TIC no
> longer sells the 24v windshield wiper motor inside, however I have a 
> number
> of spares. I spent some time learning about spur gears and after much
> searching I could not find direct gear replacements. There are places that
> will make custom gears but the cost was ridiculous. For one gear, I
> purchased gear stock at McMaster Carr and machined it on a lathe and for
> another I was able to find something similar, but I had to cut the length
> and bore and broach the hole to fit the 10mm motor shaft. I then had the
> gears electroplated. It was a lot of work and expense. If you choose to
> purchase a new style motor I may be interested in purchasing your old one
> for parts.
>
> GL,
> John KK9A
>
>
> To: "towertalk at contesting.com" <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Tic Ring
> From: Peter Helder <petehelder at hotmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 22:55:14 -0400
> List-post: <towertalk at contesting.com">mailto:towertalk at contesting.com>
> Hello All,
>
> I have obtained a tic ring from a silent key that was on his tower.  With 
> no
> information on the unit of the model number other then the label on the
> horizontal mounted motor 3122 E  date code 09/08.
> Carl at Tic General told me they no longer service this motor and needs to
> be updated.  How ever the motor I think is good, it is the gear that runs
> directly off on the armature that is bad due to water damage.
>
> Does any one has a idea where to get replacement parts for this gear box.
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Pete/ W8PD
>
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