[TowerTalk] Utility Pole as Beam Support

n0tt1 at juno.com n0tt1 at juno.com
Tue Jun 3 22:35:05 EDT 2014


BSP's...RIGHT!  "My bad" as the kids say these days.  :D)

On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 19:30:54 -0700 "Jim W7RY" <w7ry at centurytel.net>
writes:
> BTW, there are Bell System Practices (call BPS's)
> 
> BSPs And they are on Google.
> 
> 
> 73
> Jim W7RY
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: n0tt1 at juno.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 7:01 PM 
> To: n7qnm-lists at nwlink.com ; TowerTalk at contesting.com 
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Utility Pole as Beam Support 
> 
> Lucky you to get such a pole for free!!!  :D)
> 
> Use NO concrete!  The pole will shrink a little over time
> and there will be a crack to let water in and stay there,
> accelerating the rotting of your pole!  Concrete will also
> prevent you from making below ground periodic inspections
> per the reference suggested below.
> 
> Backfill with dirt or use some fine-graded sand that you "water in"
> to fill all the voids.
> 
> BTW, there are Bell System Practices (call BPS's) that *may*
> be posted on the web that describes the proper install, loading, 
> etc
> of wood poles.  Google.  If not, maybe a dedicated Telco ham
> just might have a copy in his personal library!
> 
> I'd be tempted to rig the beam and mast with a "tilt-over" feature
> using a small winch to make it a no-climb antenna structure.  A
> "cradle" would prevent side-to-side movement at the top.
> 
> Now back to my workbench.  :D)
> 
> 73,
> Charlie, N0TT
> 
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 15:15:05 -0700 "Clay Jackson" 
> <n7qnm-lists at nwlink.com>
> writes:
> > I just "inherited" a 50' (out of the ground, 6' buried) utility 
> pole 
> > (crew
> > was taking it out and told me that if I'd drag it off the road, I 
> 
> > could have
> > it).    
> > 
> > I'm thinking about trying to find a rotator and tri-bander to put 
> on 
> > top of
> > it; but, having no experience with such a setup; I thought I'd 
> seek 
> > some
> > advice first.
> > 
> > So, a few questions.
> > 
> > I'm sure someone has done this before;  would you be able to share 
> 
> > your
> > experiences?
> > 
> > I have a friend who can weld anything from steel to aluminum and so 
> 
> > I think
> > we can fab up a mount for the rotor.   
> > 
> > Beyond that, thoughts would be appreciated on things like:
> > Wind loading - how many sq ft (if any) is reasonable before I have 
> 
> > to use
> > guys (for my HyGain AV18HT the building dept made me engineer the 
> 
> > base for
> > 90K winds, WITH a "wet stamped" drawing)?
> > Base - is a 6' hole filled with dirt "good enough" or do I need 
> > something
> > more (if more, would a  6' hole with concrete be sufficient)?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance!
> > 
> > Clay
> > N7QNM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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