[TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ?

[Roger (K8RI) on TT]

On 9/12/2014 10:05 PM, Gary Schafer wrote:

My point was that if he had some of the "Old" equipment in the shack 
wouldn't it  be dangerous.

73

Roger (K8RI)

> Ranges and dryers of yesteryear had only 3 wires, 2 hot and neutral/ground.
> They had to be on a dedicated circuit so as to not energize some other
> appliance on the same feed if there was an open neutral.
>
> Now days these appliances all require 4 wires. Old ones are still
> grandfathered as far as I know.
>
> But the discussion was about the main feed to the breaker panel.
>
> 73
> Gary  K4FMX
>
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>> On 9/12/2014 9:29 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>>
>> Aren't there are a number of old commercial rigs that violate this in
>> the PS.
>> I think our old kitchen range violated it as well, as IIRC I had to
>> change the wiring when we put in a new cook top.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Roger (K8RI)
>>
>>> On Fri,9/12/2014 6:00 PM, Bill Turner wrote:
>>>> Imagine something like a washing machine where the neutral is
>>>> connected to the frame and down the line the neutral opens up. Now
>> the
>>>> frame has the full "hot" voltage on it. The next person to do a load
>>>> will be lucky if they live.
>>> But that's a false argument, Bill, because, as you noted, it is
>>> illegal to use the green wire to carry load current, and it's illegal
>>> to connect neutral to ground at any point but the service entrance.
>>> And also because all wiring within my buildings, and in the similar
>>> system I described to Shawn, DOES include both neutral and ground
>>> conductors. I've been through that in both of my buildings, making
>>> sure that there are no such improperly connected loads.
>>>
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>>
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